Ranks for MAs

Originally posted by jrodslam
Ive argued that CERTAIN pressure point attacks would work on Wolvie. Echo didnt learn how to do it. She mimics them. Shes not as good as DD when it comes to that. Plus, its her first time fighting Wolvie. I think if she knew he had a healing factor, maybe shed go for something a bit more effective. Dont you think?

sorry but a pressure points a pressure point. If one does not work the others will not as well. certain pressur epoints work and not others? that makes no sense. She does not need to be as good as DD. DD might be better at landing the pressure point, but in the end if hit they achieve the same purpose. DD would be no more effective then echo's.

So no claws?

Then they talk and he puts them back in.

Originally posted by Switch 07
So no claws?

Then they talk and he puts them back in.

Originally posted by Battlehammer
if she ahs wolverine moves it not many.

3 days that pritty impressive. Logan went a month with out eating and then fought capt and that was after already battling nuke.

I just don't see her feat being that impressive. I mean all she did was fight logan for a little while not long at all. that not enough to give her top tier spot.

as ronin she almost got killed by like 100 hand ninjas. Logan who a top tier fought hundreds and hundreds with out taking damage.

True, but she still has some.

You cant compare Logan fasting to her fasting, for the simple fact that he has a healing factor.

Considering she was weak and could barely see impresses me. Especially being able to avoid and block Logas offensive moves while trying to copy them at the same time. Plus their fight was longer than Shang-Chi's fight with Logan.😬

She almost got killed by 100 hand ninjas? No old friend.❌
First she fought Yakuza, then she fought about 100 hand ninjas, then she got beat by Elektra?

You mention Logan fighting hundreds of hand ninjas, but you have to remember again that he has a healing factor and Adamantium claws. She has nunchakus(sp?).

It was a threat. You want to carry on, you deal with these.

Originally posted by Battlehammer
no her power really is not that crazy and if he new she had powers he still would have battle her claws in now that I think about it.

also dident echo and logan fight side by side a long time ago?

Her powers are crazy by street level standards. To mimic anything just by seeing it? Thats nuts.

I dont think they did.

Lady Deathstrike above Cannonball?

Originally posted by jrodslam
True, but she still has some.

You cant compare Logan fasting to her fasting, for the simple fact that he has a healing factor.

Considering she was weak and could barely see impresses me. Especially being able to avoid and block Logas offensive moves while trying to copy them at the same time. Plus their fight was longer than Shang-Chi's fight with Logan.😬

She almost got killed by 100 hand ninjas? No old friend.❌
First she fought Yakuza, then she fought about 100 hand ninjas, then she got beat by Elektra?

You mention Logan fighting hundreds of hand ninjas, but you have to remember again that he has a healing factor and Adamantium claws. She has nunchakus(sp?).

ecpt Logan went for a month leaving him in a weaken state and then foguht nuke and then capt right after wards. seems more impressive to me.

she was havign trouble seeing due to the darkness yet whent he fight started she seem to be seeing fine.

logan then shang-chi. debatable I mean her fights not really shown just talked about.

has ronin she almsot died from ahnd ninja more thne once if not mistaken in new avengers. I will have to review the issue to make sure.

true logan has a healing factor, but then again he did not take a single it so that makes the arguement moot.

Originally posted by Battlehammer
sorry but a pressure points a pressure point. If one does not work the others will not as well. certain pressur epoints work and not others? that makes no sense. She does not need to be as good as DD. DD might be better at landing the pressure point, but in the end if hit they achieve the same purpose. DD would be no more effective then echo's.

Not true at all. Some pressure points are small and others are clearly larger. One can make you lose feeling in your hand or arm, and another can make your entire body paralyzed and even kill you.

When she fought DD, he used one to paralyze her hand or arm. Thats where she got it from. DD knows how to paralyze a full body. She doesnt. Hed be much more effective at landing them than she would be.

Originally posted by Switch 07
It was a threat. You want to carry on, you deal with these.

perhaps. Thats likly what it was.

Originally posted by jrodslam
Not true at all. Some pressure points are small and others are clearly larger. One can make you lose feeling in your hand or arm, and another can make your entire body paralyzed and even kill you.

When she fought DD, he used one to paralyze her hand or arm. Thats where she got it from. DD knows how to paralyze a full body. She doesnt. Hed be much more effective at landing them than she would be.

yes but again if one pressure point did not work then other would not work either.

Originally posted by Battlehammer
perhaps. Thats likly what it was.

Originally posted by jrodslam
Her powers are crazy by street level standards. To mimic anything just by seeing it? Thats nuts.

I dont think they did.

hmm ill ask jinzin he may kknow

Originally posted by Switch 07
So you admit he acknowledged her a threat in the MA department?

nope I don't agree.

I think he ended the fight for the reason he relies it was a mix up. I mean neither wanted the fight and after wards there talked and had a fire and so forth.

Originally posted by Battlehammer
ecpt Logan went for a month leaving him in a weaken state and then foguht nuke and then capt right after wards. seems more impressive to me.

she was havign trouble seeing due to the darkness yet whent he fight started she seem to be seeing fine.

logan then shang-chi. debatable I mean her fights not really shown just talked about.

has ronin she almsot died from ahnd ninja more thne once if not mistaken in new avengers. I will have to review the issue to make sure.

true logan has a healing factor, but then again he did not take a single it so that makes the arguement moot.

Ok, Logan was in a weakend state BUT he STILL has a healing factor.

The only time she was able to see during the entire fight was when the lighting flashed. Thats it. Logan on the other hand doesnt have much trouble seeing in the night darkness.

98% of her fights are shown. Full panels too.

He was handleing the hand ninjas, then Elektra(?) jumped in and defeated her. Later on, she got ressed, but she was weakened.

Granted you say Logan didnt take a hit. He has an Adamantium skeleton, claws and a healing factor which gives him higher stamina. She doesnt have niether of that. All she has was chucks. Big difference, Battlehammer.

Originally posted by llagrok
Lady Deathstrike above Cannonball?

yes.............why the hell would cannonball be more skilled then lady deathstrike. hell it even been mention he no match for her in skill.

Originally posted by Battlehammer
ya true, but nothing that would merit logan being nervous of being killed or so forth.

True. Im not saying that, but he sure knew and realized that she was beter than most.

Originally posted by Battlehammer
yes but again if one pressure point did not work then other would not work either.

Didnt one work on him from Elektra?

Originally posted by Battlehammer
nope I don't agree.

I think he ended the fight for the reason he relies it was a mix up. I mean neither wanted the fight and after wards there talked and had a fire and so forth.

I know she couldn't beat him or really do major damage, but he at least knew she could hurt him using her skill.

But for the what tier argument I don't really care or know.

Originally posted by jrodslam
Didnt one work on him from Elektra?