Originally posted by B.A
What website?
I also made a mace windu respect thread as well as a forgotten realms companion one which needs up dating.
http://thacmaster.*********50.com/index.cgi
go down to ink talk then sub boards respect thread
Originally posted by B.A
Uh its been a while but didn't he slash Caps leg with the claws which gave him the blood clot. Insanely cool but claws got him the win. Which IMO shows hes better overall.
You're mistaken. Here are the scans:
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So, instead of slashing his leg with his claws, he gives him a pseudo-aneurism with a kick. That seems pretty skillful to me.
I feel like bumping this list and adding my input.
- Since I don't think any one objected to my earlier nominate, I'll just place Orion in second tier.
- I vote against both Hercules and Ares to second tier
- For Kingpin for second tier
- Against Wildcat to third
- Against Cable to third
I'd also like two more nominations:
- I think that Black Cat should be moved to 3rd tier. Even back in the old days, she defeated Sabretooth in H2H
- I also nominate placing Mr. Fantastic in 4th Tier. He is a master of judo and even taught both Sue and Johnny adequate judo moves that helped them in certain situations.
And am I the only one who noticed Iron Man is in two different spots?
Current Hierarchy [177]
Cosmic Tier: (Transcendent Martial Artists) [4]
Gamora, Karate Kid, Mantis, Thanos
Uber Tier: (Unearthly Martial Artists) [7]
Kirigi (DC), Mandarin, Moondragon, O-Sensei, Ogun, Stick, Temugin
Top Tier: ("Greatest Martial Artists"😉 [18]
Batgirl (Cassandra Cain), Batman, Black Canary, Bronze Tiger, Captain America, Connor Hawke, Constantine Drakon, Daredevil, Elektra, Iron Fist, Lady Shiva, Richard Dragon, Shang Chi, Shen Kuei (The Cat), Snake-Eyes, Storm Shadow, Taskmaster, Wolverine
Second Tier: (Master Martial Artists) [55]
Adam Warlock, Agent X, Azrael, Backlash, Black Panther, Black Widow, Bullseye, Cable, Captain Mar-Vell, Champion of the Universe, Cheshire, Crossbones, Daken, David Cain, Deadpool, Deathstroke, Donatello, Echo, Eric Killmonger, Gorgon (Tomi Shishido), Green Arrow, Grifter, Jason Blood, Judomaster (Hadley Jagger), Karnak, Lady Deathstrike, Leonardo, Magnus, Merlyn (DC), Michaelangelo, Midnight Sun, Mr Sensitive, Natas, Nick Fury, Nightwing, Orion, Prometheus, Puck, Ra's al Ghul, Raphael, Ravager, Red Hood, Red Skull, Silver Samurai, Steel Serpent, Stone, Talia al Ghul, Twelve Brothers in Silk, White Tiger (Angela del Toro), Wildcat (Ted Grant), Winter Soldier, Wonder Woman, Vandal Savage, X-23, Zealot
Third Tier: (Highly Skilled Martial Artists) [58]
Ares, Arsenal, Bane, Beta Ray Bill, Black Bolt, Black Knight (Dane Whitman), Blade, Blue Beetle (Ted Kord), Colleen Wing, Damian Wayne, Doctor Mid-Nite, Doctor Strange, Domino, Donna Troy, Drax, Duke(GI Joe), Grendel (Hunter Rose), Hawkeye, Hawkman, Heavy Duty(GI Joe), Hercules, Huntress, Katana, KGBeast, Kingpin, Lady Vic, Loki, Matsu'o Tsurayaba, Midnighter, Mister America (Tex Thomson), Mister Terrific, Mockingbird, Moon Knight, Namor, Night Thrasher, Nightcrawler, Omega Red, Onyx, Psylocke, Punisher, The Question, Revanche, Robin (Tim Drake), Sabretooth, Shadowcat, Shatterstar, Shrike IV (Boone), Speedy (Mia Dearden), Spider-Woman (Jessica Drew), Stacy X, Terry McGinnis, Thena, Thor, US Agent, V, Viper (Madame Hydra), Wild Child, Wong
Fourth Tier: (Trained Martial Artists) [27]
Batgirl (Barbara Gordon), Batwoman, Beast, Black Cat, Blink, Blue Devil, Boom Boom, Cannonball, Carol Danvers, Catwoman, Colossus, Cyclops, Falcon, Gambit, Hawkgirl, Iron-Man, Jamie Madrox, Jubilee, Misty Knight, Mystique, She-Hulk, Starfire, Storm, Superman, Tarantula, Thing, Zauriel
Accomplished Fighter: (Little formal training/Some Skill) [9]
Apocalypse, Grace Choi, Hulk, Invisible Woman, Iron Man, Luke Cage, Monet St. Croix, Spider-Man, Strong Guy
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Proposed Changes (Votes For / Votes Against)
Mystique to Third: 2 [Smurph, Llag] / 1 [Srank]
Domino to Second: 2 [Smurph, jrodslam] / 1 [srank]
Ares to second tier: 2 [TP, llagrok] / 2 [capt, Accel]
Mar-Vell to uber: 2 [bran, llag] / 1 [srank]
Warlock to uber: 2 [bran, ll] / 1 [srank]
Mantis down to uber: 4 [Soljer, Xmarks, Srank, llag] / 2 [bran, Smurph]
Kingpin to second: 4 [jrod, srank, capt, Accel] / 2 [llag, Macoy]
Thanos to Uber(lower?): 3 [srank, Soljer, llag] / 0
Hawkman to second: 2 [mungi, llag] / 0
Zealot to top tier: 2 [Srank, Switch] / 0
Hercules to second: 2 [llag, Switch, Trickster] / 2 [Capt, Accel]
Cable to third: 2 [llag, Switch, Trickster] / 3 [Soljer, Capt, Accel]
Duke to second: 1 [capt] / 0
Heavy Duty to second: 1 [capt] / 0
Wildcat to third: 1 [Switch] / 4 [capt?, Trickster, Soljer, Accel]
Jubilee to third 1 [Cresh] / 0
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Additions:
Duke - Third Tier
Heavy Duty - Third Tier
Orion - Second Tier
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Notes:
-We have two 'non marvel/dc top tier' spots open. Feel free to make nominations, or vote for Zealot or any other character that is neither marvel nor DC to fill these two spots.
-GI Joe - leave 'em or remove 'em?
-I didn't add the proposed change for warlock, no one was specified for him to replace. Nor did I put in the proposed change for Deadpool for Trick - no one was specified to replace.
-Beast and Ironman moved.
-If you feel a character should be moved up or down, please do me the favor of actually stating such, so that I do not have to guess intentions. For example, Capt mentioning "Jubilee has been trained by a top tier fighter" may imply he supports the move, but it's hard to tell.
-Assuming that no opposition is presented, Thanos will move down to Uber next update.
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Originally posted by TricksterPriest
Joseph Joestar for top tier. The guy is on par with Iron Fist, if not higher. If I can get the rest of JJBA part 2, I may get him bumped to Uber.
Grandson of Jonathan Joestar, hero of Part 1 of JJBA. Joseph (Jojo) Joestar is the hero of Part 2. Joseph is the greatest tactical combat genius I have ever seen in anime. He always thinks at least 3-4 moves ahead of his opponents. And he is the best user of the Hamon martial art in the series. Example: He blocked a knife with his fingertip. He was able to use his hamon to energize strands of hair to be able to use as throwing weapons and block bullets.