KMC Comic Book Tiers

Originally posted by batdude123
Are you ****in' kidding me with this shit?

Is he Superman's level? No.

Did he give Superman a "hell of a fight?" No.

Read 'For Tomorrow' again, douche. Kal rips off his claws and punches the shit out of him so much so that he has to teleport away. Now let's see, what did Equus do... he slashed him once. Big shit. That doesn't equal him being on Superman's level, nor does it equal him giving Supes a "hell of a fight."

God damn, Validus. I'm simply giving context to the propaganda you're spewing out in order to justify Val being at that level.

Karate Kidz is teh more powerfuller than Supamanerezzz!!!11 F*ck that.

I love how you feel obligated to keep up the reputation of being an ass though.

Originally posted by Newjak
Batdude I'm aghast at this outburst. Although I agree 😖hifty:

I feel dirty having written that now. 🙁

He just caught me at a really bad time.

Originally posted by batdude123
I feel dirty having written that now. 🙁

He just caught me at a really bad time.

Originally posted by Newjak
Let's see the fact that generally Val does not take anybody lightly

Originally posted by Newjak
and the fact that Equus could cut Val in half.

Seriously, I can't believe we're criticizing someone for dodging a hit. 😂

Originally posted by Newjak
I would also like to point out that Equus isn't a truly worthy Superman foe and I would say Superman at his best destroys Equus.

Prove to me that Equus isn't a Superman worthy foe. 😐

Equus fought Superman and did better than many others. I have proof. You have speculation about "ZOMG TEH ALL OUT SUPAMAN!"

Originally posted by Newjak
I would also like to point out that Equus was getting back up before he was stopped. 😉

Originally posted by Newjak
And Val would beat Gamora but at the same time Gamora is more than capable of giving Val a run for his money. Seeing as she has already fought and beaten Thanos and has taken on Terrax.

When BW said KK beat Supes and Mon-El, you were quick to point out the reason and makes excuses for it but now you're actually going to sit here and say with a straight face that Gamora beat Thanos?

Originally posted by Newjak
The only reason I say Gamora is ok is because she has the Godslayer and therefore a larger power output than KK. I wouldn't put Mantis on there for the same reason I wouldn't put Karate Kid.

Originally posted by Newjak
Next Superman's power output is FAR FAR FAR FAR FAR FAR greater than Val's.

Besides that fact, Superman is in the elite grouping. Nobody ever said Val should be that high anyway.

Originally posted by Newjak
Which is the point. This system is based off of Power Levels and not who can beat who. Everyone on the Herald list has more power output than Val. Storm probably is roughly better or equal to him in power output.

This is why I maintain that he's being penalized for being a MA character. KK's "power output" has one purpose and that's to win fights. As silly as it may sound, you could almost say that his super power is the ability to win a fight and that ability is obviously exceedingly powerful. If you want to maintain that versatility and so called "world reaching power" is so important than you might as well vote him to street level.

Originally posted by batdude123
I feel dirty having written that now. 🙁

He just caught me at a really bad time.

Originally posted by Newjak
No it isn't but then again it isn't also about being able to beat a Herald or hang with a herald.

Like I said before a number of none herald level people have hung and or beaten Heralds.

Ironman, Captain America, Batman, Wolverine, and the list goes on. I don't see you trying to get these guys bumped up levels. The point is that Karate Kid simply can not match the power output of the Heralds.

Originally posted by Validus
So will you agree to cry and wank to Superman elsewhere?

Originally posted by batdude123
I love how you feel obligated to keep up the reputation of being an ass[b]hole though. [/B]

😂

If you agree to stop spouting bullshit lies to try and prove your point.

Originally posted by Validus
....does not prove he was going all out. You're telling me you can't take an opponent seriously without hitting them as hard as you can? Come on.

Could have? [b]HE DIDN'T! Why? Because he couldn't land a blow. Obviously he was powerless to do anything against Val.

Seriously, I can't believe we're criticizing someone for dodging a hit. 😂

Let me take a page from batdude's playbook.

Prove to me that Equus isn't a Superman worthy foe. 😐

Equus fought Superman and did better than many others. I have proof. You have speculation about "ZOMG TEH ALL OUT SUPAMAN!"

Congrats. You just proved Equus has a healing factor.

😐

When BW said KK beat Supes and Mon-El, you were quick to point out the reason and makes excuses for it but now you're actually going to sit here and say with a straight face that Gamora beat Thanos?

Whatever. That's fine. I couldn't care less where Val goes just as long as it isn't below another MA focused character.

In many ways, yes. Your hitting power is part of your power output and KK can hit harder than Kal.

Besides that fact, Superman is in the elite grouping. Nobody ever said Val should be that high anyway.

Storm 😂

This is why I maintain that he's being penalized for being a MA character. KK's "power output" has one purpose and that's to win fights. As silly as it may sound, you could almost say that his super power is the ability to win a fight and that ability is obviously exceedingly powerful. If you want to maintain that versatility and so called "world reaching power" is so important than you might as well vote him to street level. [/B]

And the reason I said that he wasn't a Superman foe was because of what Batdude said. I just didn't think it really mattered that much because it was obvious Equus wasn't a serious threat.

And I pointed out that Gamora has great skills that have allowed her to take on Heralds Level or higher guys. And I only pointed out that Superboy beat Val easy when he got serious and that Val generally doesn't beat big guns but more or less delays them.

Are you trying to say that Karate Kid can hit harder than Superman? 🙂

I hate to tell you this but that is an obvious lie. He doesn't hit harder he just hits more precise and vulnerable spots. If Clark has KK's ability to spot weak points than Superman could shatter pretty much anything that isn't truly invulnerable.

and Storm can create very large storms and tornados and stuff like that. She isn't exactly weak. Plus she has blasted Silver Surfer off his board. 😉

I'll admit to being a raging homosexual with a hard on for Richard Simmons videos if it means I don't have to see any S shield wanking.

Originally posted by Validus
If any of those characters did what Val does as consistently as Val does it, I'd concede to the point.

Doesnt' KK fall into the same league as Squirrel Girl? So shouldn't he be placed in a "special" category with her?

Originally posted by Validus
I'll admit to being a raging homosexual with a hard on for Richard Simmons videos if it means I don't have to see any S shield wanking.

shock

Originally posted by ExodusCloak
Doesnt' KK fall into the same league as Squirrel Girl? So shouldn't he be placed in a "special" category with her?

Pretty much.

Originally posted by Validus
I'll admit to being a raging homosexual with a hard on for Richard Simmons videos if it means I don't have to see any S shield wanking.

Originally posted by Validus
I'll admit to being a raging homosexual with a hard on for Richard Simmons videos if it means I don't have to see any S shield wanking.

Originally posted by Newjak
You should know I am the last one who wants to wank Superman. I still believe he is Mid Herald 😛

In that case, everyone else in that category should be moved down a spot as well.

Originally posted by batdude123
In that case, everyone else in that category should be moved down a spot as well.

Originally posted by Newjak
Well Sentry needs to be moved down and so does Stardust along with Superman.

I guess you don't understand the word "everybody" then.

Originally posted by batdude123
I guess you don't understand the word "everybody" then.

Originally posted by ExodusCloak
Doesnt' KK fall into the same league as Squirrel Girl? So shouldn't he be placed in a "special" category with her?

Originally posted by batdude123

Pretty much.

Originally posted by Validus
Basically yeah because apparently nobody has an idea how an MA powerset compares to those which are more standard and defined.

Cool, that's pretty much how I see it. Well if it ever comes down to it, I vote to have Squirrel Girl and KK placed under a special category.