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Blair Wind The Iron Avenger

Ill let Val do the arguing. Im just gonna post random stuff I find impressive for KK (with my limited time online, so its not gonna be a lot of stuff)

Strength Feat that > Normal Superboy
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y92/silicondream/LSuperboyLSH231-28.jpg
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y92/silicondream/LSuperboyLSH231-30.jpg
Val breaks out of inertron restraints. For those who don't know, inertron is basically the DC version of Secondary Adamantium...not literally unbreakable, but even PC Kryptonians couldnâ€™t bend or break inertron slabs thicker than a couple of inches. Superboy once broke out of inertron chains, but needed the strength of insanity to do it.

This guy is a daxamite...dont think he redirected anything 🙄 Looks like he broke his jaw based on the art too....dunno about that though.
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y92/silicondream/Legionnaires_Annual-02-21.jpg

Anyways, Ill let you guys continue with your talk. 🙂

Validus Senior Member

You know, it's recently come to my attention that I got Equus confused with Subjekt-17. Blame the artists. As the great Chris Tucker would say, "All ya'll Superman villains look alike!"

So apologies to batdude. I'll even personally remove the sand from your vagina if you want. 🙁

Symmetric Chaos Fractal King

Originally posted by Blair Wind
Ill let Val do the arguing. Im just gonna post random stuff I find impressive for KK (with my limited time online, so its not gonna be a lot of stuff)
Strength Feat that > Normal Superboy
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y92/silicondream/LSuperboyLSH231-28.jpg
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y92/silicondream/LSuperboyLSH231-30.jpg
Val breaks out of inertron restraints. For those who don't know, inertron is basically the DC version of Secondary Adamantium...not literally unbreakable, but even PC Kryptonians couldnâ€™t bend or break inertron slabs thicker than a couple of inches. Superboy once broke out of inertron chains, but needed the strength of insanity to do it.
This guy is a daxamite...dont think he redirected anything 🙄 Looks like he broke his jaw based on the art too....dunno about that though.
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y92/silicondream/Legionnaires_Annual-02-21.jpg
Anyways, Ill let you guys continue with your talk. 🙂

TO HIGH HERALD!!!!!

Newjak I am Beyond Power

Originally posted by Validus
Basically yeah because apparently nobody has an idea how an MA powerset compares to those which are more standard and defined.

I think the problem is that MA is generally written in comics so that weaker characters can generally hang with stronger ones.

You know the whole if I hit this super strong guy in weak points it should still effect them. So what really is there power output and what is just them breaking weak points.

Newjak I am Beyond Power

Originally posted by Validus
You know, it's recently come to my attention that I got Equus confused with Subjekt-17. Blame the artists. As the great Chris Tucker would say, "All ya'll Superman villains look alike!"
So apologies to batdude. I'll even personally remove the sand from your vagina if you want. 🙁

You only apologize to Batdude cryoh

Validus Senior Member

Originally posted by Newjak
You only apologize to Batdude cryoh

I wouldn't touch your vagina with Xmeat's pole.

Newjak I am Beyond Power

Originally posted by Validus
I wouldn't touch your vagina with Xmeat's pole.

I've been away for two months and this is what I get cryoh

Blair Wind The Iron Avenger

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
TO HIGH HERALD!!!!!

Im too tired to know if thats sarcasm or not - though it sure seems that way - no one is arguing for that. It just is that if Mantis or Gamora are higher than KK when they are mostly skill based heroes it does not seem logical as KK>>both. When someone knows EVERY SINGLE MA from the 30th century they should be pretty damn uber.

Validus Senior Member

Originally posted by Newjak
I've been away for two months and this is what I get cryoh

Apparently you didn't care about my feelings when you went away.

Validus Senior Member

Originally posted by Blair Wind
When someone knows EVERY SINGLE MA from the 30th century they should be pretty damn uber.

*nods*

Newjak I am Beyond Power

Originally posted by Blair Wind
Im too tired to know if thats sarcasm or not - though it sure seems that way - no one is arguing for that. It just is that if Mantis or Gamora are higher than KK when they are mostly skill based heroes it does not seem logical as KK>>both. When someone knows EVERY SINGLE MA from the 30th century they should be pretty damn uber.

Except the Gamora that is low Herald isn't just MA based. hence why the Godslayer was included.

And Mantis isn't just skill based anymore.

Originally posted by Validus
Apparently you didn't care about my feelings when you went away.

I needed some me time 🙁

Validus Senior Member

And I see the Elders of the Universes are still grouped together despite wildly varying power levels in that group. That's like listing Hawkman and Alan Scott together because both are in the Society.

darthgoober Senior Member

Originally posted by Blair Wind
Im too tired to know if thats sarcasm or not - though it sure seems that way - no one is arguing for that. It just is that if Mantis or Gamora are higher than KK when they are mostly skill based heroes it does not seem logical as KK>>both. When someone knows EVERY SINGLE MA from the 30th century they should be pretty damn uber.

Mantis has a lot more than just skill going for her now. When she was primarily skill based she could do things like...

Fight off the likes of Thor, Ironman, Vision, Black Panther, and the Scarlet Witch…
http://img297.imageshack.us/img297/8418/avengersv112307qx4.jpg
http://img207.imageshack.us/img207/3401/avengersv112308if0.jpg

One shot Thor…
http://img521.imageshack.us/img521/3958/avengers11416qg7.jpg

And tag Quicksilver

But AFTER she became the Celestial Madonna, she was even more badass…

Has speed/reflexes(Post Celestial Madonna) sufficient to trip the Runner…
http://img297.imageshack.us/img297/5762/silversurfer198700421jg3.jpg

Mantis’s body(Post Celestial Madonna) is composed of pure mental energy and can withstand any force Surfer’s speed can generate…
http://img297.imageshack.us/img297/188/silversurfer198700415gp7.jpg

Mantis(Post Celestial Madonna) vs. Thanos clone…
http://img165.imageshack.us/img165/5049/avengerscelestialquest0fg8.jpg
http://img211.imageshack.us/img211/796/avengerscelestialquest0eu9.jpg
http://img211.imageshack.us/img211/6347/avengerscelestialquest0hn2.jpg
http://img211.imageshack.us/img211/4350/avengerscelestialquest0um9.jpg

darthgoober Senior Member

Originally posted by Validus
And I see the Elders of the Universes are still grouped together despite wildly varying power levels in that group. That's like listing Hawkman and Alan Scott together because both are in the Society.

But it's been established that ALL of the Elder's have more power than Surfer, so it's not all that much different than grouping Pre Crisis Kryptonians together.

batdude123 Fellow Tu Quoqumber

Originally posted by Validus
So apologies to batdude. I'll even personally remove the sand from your vagina if you want. 🙁

And I'll gladly allow it.

Newjak I am Beyond Power

Originally posted by batdude123
And I'll gladly allow it.

shock

batdude123 Fellow Tu Quoqumber

Originally posted by darthgoober
Mantis has a lot more than just skill going for her now. When she was primarily skill based she could do things like...
Fight off the likes of Thor, Ironman, Vision, Black Panther, and the Scarlet Witch…
http://img297.imageshack.us/img297/8418/avengersv112307qx4.jpg
http://img207.imageshack.us/img207/3401/avengersv112308if0.jpg
One shot Thor…
http://img521.imageshack.us/img521/3958/avengers11416qg7.jpg
And tag Quicksilver

But AFTER she became the Celestial Madonna, she was even more badass…
Has speed/reflexes(Post Celestial Madonna) sufficient to trip the Runner…
http://img297.imageshack.us/img297/5762/silversurfer198700421jg3.jpg
Mantis’s body(Post Celestial Madonna) is composed of pure mental energy and can withstand any force Surfer’s speed can generate…
http://img297.imageshack.us/img297/188/silversurfer198700415gp7.jpg
Mantis(Post Celestial Madonna) vs. Thanos clone…
http://img165.imageshack.us/img165/5049/avengerscelestialquest0fg8.jpg
http://img211.imageshack.us/img211/796/avengerscelestialquest0eu9.jpg
http://img211.imageshack.us/img211/6347/avengerscelestialquest0hn2.jpg
http://img211.imageshack.us/img211/4350/avengerscelestialquest0um9.jpg

Are you seriously trying to compare Thor's durability to a Pre-Crisis Kryptonian or Daxamite? 😂

Thor's "invulnerability" is suspect at best. When it comes to speed and durability, Thor has the worst showings of anyone in the high herald level category.

Originally posted by darthgoober
But it's been established that ALL of the Elder's have more power than Surfer, so it's not all that much different than grouping Pre Crisis Kryptonians together.

So you really think the Gardner is more powerful than Surfer? 😬

Validus Senior Member

Originally posted by darthgoober
But it's been established that ALL of the Elder's have more power than Surfer, so it's not all that much different than grouping Pre Crisis Kryptonians together.

The difference between PC Superboy and PC Supergirl wasn't as huge as the difference between say, Grandmaster and Champion. Grandmaster is Transcendent. Champ is herald level.

darthgoober Senior Member

Originally posted by batdude123
Are you seriously trying to compare Thor's durability to a Pre-Crisis Kryptonian or Daxamite? 😂
Thor's "invulnerability" is suspect at best. When it comes to speed and durability, Thor has the worst showings of anyone in the high herald level category.

I didn't compare Thor to anyone, I just pointed out the feat. Why does KK have a record of one shotting PC Daximites?

And again, that was pre Celestial Madonna.

Originally posted by batdude123
So you really think the Gardner is more powerful than Surfer? 😬

Honestly not sure because I haven't gotten around to researching Gardener yet. But Surfer had encountered him when he said this...

darthgoober Senior Member

Originally posted by Validus
The difference between PC Superboy and PC Supergirl wasn't as huge as the difference between say, Grandmaster and Champion. Grandmaster is Transcendent. Champ is herald level.

Champion jobs a lot, but his power output is on par with the rest of the Elders. It's his lack of versatility and the way he restricts his methods of combat that kills him.