Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirlStop comparing her to people then.
**** Diana. She isn't my main concern. She can stay where she is until the JLA writer who likes her, and gail give her worthy feats. Which are coming. And I can see Kil Taking 5/10 against stardust. Didn't kil absorb his race too? And they were matter before hand right? Transmutation and absorbtion. 🙄
Highly irrelevant. Anyway, I'm just doubting Stardust could get absorbed so easily.
Also, just because someone can beat someone a tier above them, doesn't mean they move up. So I've been told anyway.
Like for example, just because you think Firelord is equal to Stardust, it's Stardust's versatility that put him above Firelord. Even though Stardust seems more powerful anyway...
Or Morg, and Surfer. Even though Surfer has taken him down, when he wasn't letting Morg hit him.
Surfer has shown so much more shit than Morg, it's ridicules.
Plus, most of these guys haven't had a case made for them, so some of them have just stayed at the same spot, since this has been opened.
So, instead of yelling "populairity, zomG!!", do something.
Ex: "Black Adam should be high-herald."
Then people will vote to decide.
Originally posted by Validus
Because Stardust was clearly more powerful than Bill during their fight. Beta Ray Bill was never able to actually him damage at all once Stardust revealed his true form.Because nobody has brought it up for vote yet.
1. Each tier is pretty wide in what it encompasses.
2. List includes PIS/CIS.Captain Atom has more than one showing to his name. He's also beaten Firestorm who you want to be High Herald.
First of all, Lobo did no such thing. Quit exaggerating.
Second, she's beaten Martian Manhunter, John Stewart, Flash. Escaped Raven's soul self. Has light speed travel. One shotted Solomon Grundy who had just defeated the entire JSA. Dislocated Superboy's jaw with one blow who is in the Low Herald bracket (for now). Beat Blackrock right after Blackrock had just gotten the better of Superman. I could go on.
Captain Atom has beaten Force with a touch more than once. Kyle has beaten Force easily on more than one occasion once he took of the kid gloves. He is not on their level at all.
Surfer is more versatile than Morg. Far more. He beat him once he stopped holding back. I guess it's arguable though.
Actually, I agree Hulk should be Mid Herald and was planning on bringing that up pretty soon.
Could you please bring up Original Strength Abomination for low herald.
I'll shutup now.
I'm content.
I nominate Synn For trans lvl.
Infinity Man for trans
Mary Marvel for high Herald lvl
Wog for high herald lvl
Mogo for trans lvl wihtout the ?
Morg for high Herald
Firelord for high Herald
Orion for High herald lvl
and Hulk for Mid.
OH and Starhawk seems to me to be as powerful as any other top tier or more so. But I dont' own all of his showings. But he does need to be bumped at least one tier up.
Originally posted by batdude123
You're f*ckin with me right? Give me a break.[b]The Atom, Aztek, Cassandra Nova, Death's Head 3.0, Death Metal, Engineer, Fin Fang Foom, Gorilla Grodd, Hector Hammond, Hulk, Jack Hawksmoor (in city), Kalibak, Karate Kid, Living Monolith, Man-Beast, Manchester Black, Mar-Vell, Matrix Supergirl, Monica Rambeau (Pulsar), Plastic Man, Prime, Professor X, Red Tornado, Saturn Girl, Shadow King, Super Skrull, Superboy, Tempest, Ultra Boy, Ultra-Humanite, Ultron, Union, Wendigo, Winter, Zauriel
Don't give me the "he isn't as powerful" bullshit speech. He most certainly is. He's much more suited for this category than high meta. [/B]
Union basically had the powers of Superman and Green Lantern. He just preferred to not use them.
If Union used his power right he could take Ult. Mags.
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Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
I nominate Synn For trans lvl.
Infinity Man for trans
Mary Marvel for high Herald lvl
Wog for high herald lvl
Mogo for trans lvl wihtout the ?
Morg for high Herald
Firelord for high Herald
Orion for High herald lvl
and Hulk for Mid.OH and Starhawk seems to me to be as powerful as any other top tier or more so. But I dont' own all of his showings. But he does need to be bumped at least one tier up.
Yes on Synn for trans. Nth metal is stupidly uber when you know how to use it.
Yes on IM for trans. He may need a respect thread in order to prove it though.
No idea. I don't know her current showings. Abstain from Mary Marvel.
While I do think the Wog can hang and maybe stalemate/beat Hal and Kyle, there's the general principle of people's status has to be taken into account. No on Wog for high herald. I'll co-sign mid though, if he isn't already. And the guy you were thinking of is Arkillo.
Yes on Mogo for trans. This doesn't need to be justified.
No on Firelord. He barely rates mid so far. And SMvsFL exists for a reason.
No on Orion for high herald. By all rights, he deserves it. But Morrison ****ed up his character and recent showings have hurt him. After Death of the New Gods, assuming Starlin doesn't completely botch it, you should try this again.
No on Hulk for mid. He just earned Low Herald. He ain't getting mid. Yes for low herald.
Co-sign with Smurf. The only thing that prevents Manhatten from being off the list entirely is that he doesn't give a shit about practically anything.
Mantis (DC) for high herald. Mantis has fought off IM, a few versions of the JLA, and several PC new gods.
Originally posted by SnazzySmurph
Being in the same bracket wouldn't make them equal. 😬And, when it comes down to showings, there's not tons that Apoc has over Sinister.
They both cut through the x-men like butter. Only Sinister has mentioned many times that Apocalypse is above him.
There's a reason while Sinister fled after he had tried to affect Apocalypse with that virus that he healed over.
Originally posted by SoljerIf you put DS on trans, you'd have to put Highfather on trans since they are after all equal. ( and we all know highfather is skyfather)Actually DS has been superior to HIghfather a few times. And Takion is still on trans even tho technically, He's the new Highfather. And with a better feat than most on that lvl.
Yes on Mogo.No to Morg.
No to Firelord.
No to Orion.
Infinity Man is iffy at best.
And it'd be nice if someone kept track of the votes a little better. Darkseid for trans was in the majority, I believe, before the entire thing was filibustered.