KMC Comic Book Tiers

Started by Capt Spaulding485 pages

Originally posted by batdude123
Here's a more recent example than that...

http://img187.imageshack.us/my.php?image=hrpage131ym.jpg

Iron Man isn't immune to Magneto's power. 😬

Are you kidding? He's been taken down by an EMP plenty of times.

how dare you post something that's relevent to the thread, and that's on-topic

Originally posted by batdude123
Here's a more recent example than that...

http://img187.imageshack.us/my.php?image=hrpage131ym.jpg

Iron Man isn't immune to Magneto's power. 😬

Actually, if I am not mistaken that would be a less recent example in terms of armors. That design was one of his much older armors that he used for a bit while creating a new one after his armor became sentient. He even mentions how for a while he has been wearing a armor not up to par with all his recent modification because it is sooo old.

So thats not the best example 😬

Originally posted by Blair Wind
Actually, if I am not mistaken that would be a less recent example in terms of armors. That design was one of his much older armors that he used for a bit while creating a new one after his armor became sentient. He even mentions how for a while he has been wearing a armor not up to par with all his recent modification because it is sooo old.

So thats not the best example 😬

You are correct.

Iron man for Abstract

Guy Gardener is allot better than hes given credit for.

he has took on Desparo on his own. Lobo many times.

Superman as well. 🥷

Originally posted by Lil Buddy
Guy Gardener is allot better than hes given credit for.

he has took on Desparo on his own. Lobo many times.

Superman as well. 🥷

I completely and fully agree.

Originally posted by Capt Spaulding
Iron man for Abstract

Come on Capt S. that's a little much don't you think... 😎

Originally posted by Blair Wind
Telepathy or any form of telepathy (being able to produce a foreign substance or material - such as bubbles) is blocked by the suit.
Just thought I'd chime in on this point. doped

Having psi-blockers that prevent telepathic intrusion into your mind (notwithstanding they can be bypassed by skilled telepaths anyway) doesn't necessarily preclude psionic-based powers like Invisible Woman's from affecting his body, nor telekinesis, cryokinesis, pyrokinesis, etc. etc. other-kineses. Unless somewhere there's a scan that says he's got some sort of armor-tight forcefield that blocks all psionic-based abilities I'm not buying it.

Sersi's matter manipulation is technically a psionic ability and I don't see her having any problems boiling his lungs before turning him into a potato.

Originally posted by Blair Wind
Actually, if I am not mistaken that would be a less recent example in terms of armors. That design was one of his much older armors that he used for a bit while creating a new one after his armor became sentient. He even mentions how for a while he has been wearing a armor not up to par with all his recent modification because it is sooo old.

So thats not the best example 😬

Well, if you give a scan of when that occurred and when he got his armor back we can place it into continuity and see if it's true. 🙂


Sub-Skyfather (Transcendent)

Amazo, Appolyon, The Asgardian Destroyer, Black Racer, Blackheart, Blaze, Circe, Count Abyss, Darkseid, Death Urge, Despero, The Doctor, Doomsday (H/P), Dr. Fate, Dr. Manhattan, Dr. Strange (classic), Eclipso, Elders of the Universe (minus Ego), Fernus, Gog, Gray Man, High Evolutionary, Ion (current), Jenny Quantum, The Keeper, King Thor, Magus (original), Mangog, Mongul I (Pre Crisis), Nightmare, Onimar Synn, Onslaught, Queen of Fables, Resurrection Man 1 Million, Sentinel (Alan Scott), Silver Age Kryptonians/Daxamites, Solomon Grundy (Peak), Solusandra, Stayne, Strange Visitor, Sun Eater, Superboy Prime, Superman 1 Million, Takion, Talisman, Thanos, Tyrant (powered down), Validus

Herald

High
Adam Warlock, Baron Zemo (w/ Moonstones), Cyborg Superman, Doomsday (Gog Wars), The Eradicator (Fortress Mode), Genis-Vell, Green Lantern (Hal, Kyle, Alan), Infinity-Man, The Kryptonian, Majestic, Moonstone (w/ both stones), Quasar, Qztr, The Sentry, The Silver Surfer, Sinestro, Spartan 3.0, Stardust, Superman (including B/R and AS), Thor, The Void

Middle
Alexander Nero, Beta Ray Bill, Binary, Black Adam, Black Bolt, Cable (Full Power), Captain Atom, Cpt. Comet, Captain Marvel (DC), Count Nefaria, Damien Hellstrom, Evinlea, The Fallen One, Firelord, Firestorm, The Flash III (Wally West), The Flash IV (Bart Allen), The General (Shaggy Man), General Zod, Gladiator, Green Lantern (Guy, John, Katma, Kilowog), Hulk, Hyperion, Ikaris, Imperiex Probes, Kid Omega, Lobo, Loki, Magus (Post-IG), Martian Manhunter, Maxima, Metamorpho, Mon-El, Morg, Nate Grey, Orion, Rachel Summers (Phoenix II), Red Shift, Sersi, Shaman, Skreet, Supergirl, Supreme, Swamp Thing, Terrax the Tamer, Void, Waverider, Wildfire, Witchfire (Demon Form), Wonder Woman

Low
Absorbing Man, Air Walker, Animal Man, Apocalypse, Apollo, Argent, The Atom, Aztek, Bizarro Superman, Breach, Cassandra Nova, Cir-El, Damage, Darkness, Darwin, Death's Head 3.0, Death Metal, Doomsday (DOS), Dr. Doom, Dr. Invincible, Dr. Light, Dr. Light II (Kimiyo Hoshi), Dr. Polaris, Drax The Destroyer, Enchantress, Engineer, Etrigan, Exodus, Fin Fang Foom, The Flash I (Jay Garrick), The Flash II (Barry Allen), Gammid, Gamora (w/Godslayer), Gilgamesh, Gold Key Solar, Gorilla Grodd, Graviton, Green Lantern (Soranik Natu), Guardian I (James Hudson), He-Man, Hector Hammond, Iceman, Isis, Jade, Jack Hawksmoor (in city), Jack of Hearts, Jericho, Juggernaut (Classic), Kalibak, Karate Kid, Lightray, Living Monolith, Lunatik, Madison Jeffries (BOX IV), Magneto, Major Force, Makkari, Man-Beast, Manchester Black, Marrina (Leviathan), Mar-Vell, Matrix Supergirl, Meggan, Mongul, Monica Rambeau (Pulsar), Mr. M, Nova (Frankie Raye), Nova Richard Rider (current), Plastic Man, Prime, Professor X, Raven, The Ray, Red Tornado, Ronan the Accuser, Saturn Girl, Selene (External), Shadow King, Snowbird, Starhawk, Starman, Super Skrull, Superboy, Tempest, Ultra Boy, Ultra-Humanite, Ultron, Union, Vulcan, Wendigo, Winter, Witchfire (Normal), Zauriel

Metahuman (Mid-tier "Iron Man" level)

High
Abomination, Adam Strange, Aquaman, Ares (Marvel), Atlas, Aurora, Batman 1 Million, Battalion (Jackson King), Blastaar, Blob, BOX I (Roger Bochs), Captain Britain, Captain Marvel Jr, Colossus, Crystal, Death's Head II, Donna Troy, Emma Frost, Ghost Rider II, Grim Reaper, Guardian II (Heather Hudson), Havok, Hellstrike, Hercules (Mortal), Holocaust, The Human Torch, Invisible Woman, Iron-Man, Jean Grey (sans Phoenix), Jenny Sparks, Juggernaut (Depowered), Kang, Living Laser, Machine Man, Manbot, Mandarin, Mary Marvel, Maul, Mercer Drake, Metallo, Mimic (Exiles), Miss Martian, Mr. Fantastic, Mr. Sinister, Namor the Sub-Mariner, Nico Minoru, Nightshade, Nimrod, Northstar, Ocean Master, Osiris, Pitt, Polaris, Power Girl, Psylocke, Radioactive Man, Sand, Sasquatch, Shassa, She-Hulk, Starfire, Storm, Supernova, Temugin, The Thing, Thunderstrike, The Tick, Ulik, Ultimo, Vision, War Machine, Windshear, Wonder Man, Zzaxx

Middle
Aegis, Atom Smasher, Attuma, Balder, Beast Boy, Bishop, Blink, Blue Beetle (Jamie Reyes), Blue Devil, Bombshell, Booster Gold, Carnage, Cloak, Corrin, Cyborg, Cyclops, Death's Head, Death Wreck, Dust, Electro, Elijah Snow, Farenheit, Flint, Fuji, Ghost Rider (Johnny Blaze), Ghost Rider(Dan Ketch), Grace Choi, Hawkgirl, Hawkman, Hellion, Karolina Dean, Kymaera/Namorita, Lightning Lad, Matua, M.O.D.O.K., Molly Hayes, Moonstone, Morlun, Ms. Marvel, Nico Minoru, Nova Richard Rider (classic), Ogun, Quicksilver (classic), Ragman, Rogue, Rom, Shadowcat, Shift, Steel, Terra, Thunder, Tiger Shark, Toxin, Vance Astro, Vengeance, Venom, Victor Mancha, Wonder Girl

Low
3-D Man, Ambrose Chase, Angel, Arachne, Arana, Azrael, Beast, Black Canary, Black Tarantula, Blade, Blue Beetle (Dan Garrett), Bruenor Battlehammer, Century, Charcoal, Charlie 27, Constrictor, Creeper, Cyber, Dagger, Deathlok, Deathstroke the Terminator, Doc Ock, Drizzt Do'Urden, Elixer, Falcon, Firehawk, Gambit, Green Goblin, Hobgoblin, Iron Fist, Jakita Wagner, Karnak, Kid Devil, Killer Croc, Klaw, Lady Deathstrike, Longshot, Luke Cage, Man-Bat, Marrina (Normal), Mercury, Midnighter, Mister Hyde, Multiple Man, Mysterio, Mystique, Nightcrawler, Nuke, Omega Red, Orka Humbug, Prometheus, Protocide, Puck, Puma, Rage, Sabretooth, Shang Chi, Silver Samurai, Speedball, Speedfreek, Spider-Man, Spider-Man 2099, Spider-Woman, Swift, Thunder Cats, Tombstone, Triathalon, Vance Astro, Vanguard, Vermin, Vulture, Warlock (Technarchy/Phalanx), Warpath, Wildchild, Wizard, Wolverine, Wulfgar

Street Level

High
Bane, Batgirl, Batman, Black Cat, Black Panther, Blacklash, Bronze Tiger, Bullseye, Captain America, The Cat, Constantine Drakon, Daredevil, Elektra, Green Arrow, Hawkeye, Hush, Kingpin, Lady Shiva, Ravager, Red Skull, Richard Dragon, Taskmaster, Union Jack, X-23, Nightwing, Red Hood

Middle
Arsenal/Red Arrow, Baron Zemo, Blue Beetle (Ted Kord), Crossbones, Deadshot, Echo, Grifter, Joker, Mach IV, Misty Knight, Moon Knight, Nick Fury, Nomad, Peacemaker, Punisher, Ra's Al Ghul, Rose Tattoo, Turok, Wildcat, Robin

Low
Alfred, Batroc, Black Widow, Catwoman, Christine Trelane, Colleen Wing, Night Thrasher, Obregon Kaine, Penguin, The Question, Riddler, Talia, White Tiger


Re-posted, because no one should have to go back more than 5 pages to find the latest draft.

Also: I didn't see The Kryptonian anywhere (High Herald?). Though he's stated to be the second most powerful being in existence (and that's one helluva claim, made by Reed, not Galactus), there are virtually no feats to back this up. Maybe Transcendent.

The Kryptonian should not be at High Herald, but thats just me..

Also I think Ultron should be bumped up from low herald to at least mid herald.

Originally posted by batdude123
Well, if you give a scan of when that occurred and when he got his armor back we can place it into continuity and see if it's true. 🙂

Lets see. I went and checked, and he was using old armors (plural) from v3 issues #31-#41 then started building his SKIN armor.

Talking about his old armor explicitly:
http://img123.imageshack.us/my.php?image=file0013cp0.jpg

It fits in with your scan as well because Hank Pym was Giant Man (Goliath, or whatever he was calling himself, the costume was the same) as when this was occuring. (Note: This is a dream sequence of Ty, who hates Tony, but Ironman was again wearing an old armor during that time period)
http://img166.imageshack.us/my.php?image=file0004jk3.jpg

In fact, I dont have my Avengers comics anymore, but I recall them even mentioning in a caption something to the effects of "Why is Ironman wearing his old armors? Tune in to Ironman #(issue) to find out!"

For more reference:
After his experience with the Sentient Armor, Tony Stark suffered an uncharacteristic bout of technophobia. Gunshy, and still in the dark about Ultron's role in the birth of his living armor, and under the behavior-altering affects of Ty Stone's psychic manipulations, Stark didn't want to take any chances. After going back to his roots by donning an old suit of Iron Man armor for a time, he soon gave up being Iron Man AND Tony Stark altogether. He gave away his fortune, adopted the persona of Hogan Potts, and disappeared into New York's Silicon Alley a faceless code monkey. But while he could change his name, Tony Stark could not stop being the man he was for so many years: Iron Man. To that end, Tony Stark took his time in building Model XXII, producing it in stages from scratch, examining every single chip and circuit he put in there.

http://www.ironmanarmory.com/skinarmor.html

Originally posted by Blair Wind
Lets see. I went and checked, and he was using old armors (plural) from v3 issues #31-#41 then started building his SKIN armor.

Talking about his old armor explicitly:
http://img123.imageshack.us/my.php?image=file0013cp0.jpg

It fits in with your scan as well because Hank Pym was Giant Man (Goliath, or whatever he was calling himself, the costume was the same) as when this was occuring. (Note: This is a dream sequence of Ty, who hates Tony, but Ironman was again wearing an old armor during that time period)
http://img166.imageshack.us/my.php?image=file0004jk3.jpg

In fact, I dont have my Avengers comics anymore, but I recall them even mentioning in a caption something to the effects of "Why is Ironman wearing his old armors? Tune in to Ironman #(issue) to find out!"

For more reference:
After his experience with the Sentient Armor, Tony Stark suffered an uncharacteristic bout of technophobia. Gunshy, and still in the dark about Ultron's role in the birth of his living armor, and under the behavior-altering affects of Ty Stone's psychic manipulations, Stark didn't want to take any chances. [b]After going back to his roots by donning an old suit of Iron Man armor for a time, he soon gave up being Iron Man AND Tony Stark altogether.
He gave away his fortune, adopted the persona of Hogan Potts, and disappeared into New York's Silicon Alley a faceless code monkey. But while he could change his name, Tony Stark could not stop being the man he was for so many years: Iron Man. To that end, Tony Stark took his time in building Model XXII, producing it in stages from scratch, examining every single chip and circuit he put in there.

http://www.ironmanarmory.com/skinarmor.html [/B]

Just out of curiosity, what year were v3 issues #31-#41 in?

And, what year are these from:

http://img170.imageshack.us/my.php?image=againstmagneto1sy7.jpg
http://img132.imageshack.us/my.php?image=againstmagneto2zw8.jpg

Originally posted by Priest
Also I think Ultron should be bumped up from low herald to at least mid herald.

i think we should wait and see how conquest ends first, imo that is.

Originally posted by batdude123
Just out of curiosity, what year were v3 issues #31-#41 in?

And, what year are these from:

http://img170.imageshack.us/my.php?image=againstmagneto1sy7.jpg
http://img132.imageshack.us/my.php?image=againstmagneto2zw8.jpg

From August 2000-June 2001

I wouldnt be able to tell you about the scans, I found those as just scans.

Originally posted by Blair Wind
From August 2000-June 2001

I wouldnt be able to tell you about the scans, I found those as just scans.

Ah, okay. Thanks.

Originally posted by LORD B
i think we should wait and see how conquest ends first, imo that is.

Agreed. People are WAY too eager to bump people up. Each level is a sizable leap in power.

Originally posted by DigiMark007
Agreed. People are WAY too eager to bump people up. Each level is a sizable leap in power.

Not really, he's been beating up the Avengers since the 70's 😬
(Also, i dont think A. Conquest Ultron is not as powerful as his past incarnations)

Johnny Storm beat him in Secret Wars. Easily, at that.

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