Originally posted by OneDumbG0
Iceman is dependant on his surroundings to a large degree as well. He only grows massively large with a sufficient water source in the vicinity. Although he is a cryokinetic and manipulates heat, he has not shown any canon on-panel feats of manipulating heat on anything other than water. Not only that, Iceman has historically demonstrated far more difficulty with his powers, to the point where he was unable to revert from ice-form for months or from human-form after M-Day without Emma Frost's help both times. Spark's shown no such limit and her feats blow Iceman's out of the water easy.Damage, Engineer, Ultron, and Wendigo. Jenny Sparks could take these foes on from the low herald-tier. You'd have to isolate Jenny Sparks far far away from civilization to give these low-herald foes a substantial advantage against her. And that doesn't even count how she can use an opponent's internal electricity against foes as well like Iceman could use an opponent's internal moisture. Although I understand that beating foes in a higher tier or being beaten by foes in a lower tier does not really matter here, either Iceman should come down or Jenny Sparks should move up.
An anecdote as an entire argument. How are we talking about Iceman? And how does it have anything to do with Jenny? And how does anything involving M-Day count as a point against him? Citing Iceman doesn't justify moving someone up an entire tier. If you think Iceman is poorly placed, you can bring him up at some point as well for discussion.
Besides, ultimatums like the last line (with the underline for emphasis) just make you sound childish.
As it is, I'm not sure how this became such an issue. We have 3 characters being voted upon before any more can be discussed. Once a spot becomes available, feel free to petition for Jenny and we can put it to a vote.
Engineer would crush her, btw. She can manipulate electricity as well, and has a bevy of siphoning, absorption, and trapping options to take her down. But again, we're not talking about individual matchups. Engineer can make duplicates, survive nukes, create nanotechnology or building-sized constructs, and anything that her considerable genius can assimilate and devise (the list is beyond impressive). Jenny's electricity. I find it hard to see how the former's massive power and versatility advantages don't place her on a higher tier than a one-trick pony like Jenny.