Originally posted by ultimatethor
Hmm ....Lets move surfer up to trans 😖hifty:.
This has been discussed before. He certainly heads his current class, and helps define it, but he's been punked repeatedly by various people who aren't even at the top of the Trans. tier. Barring something unforeseen, he's at HH indefinitely. Which is nothing to scoff at, especially since he's clearly at or near the top of that tier.
The fact that he gets nearly one-shotted by the likes of Thanos and DP Tyrant is enough to keep him down for me, espcially when he was in a group in the Tyrant fight. He's also shown as the peer of Thor and Morg and such. So he may be better than them overall, but is written far closer to them than to Trans in the comics.
If others feel differently, cool. I know there's an absurd amount of rep for him on the forums. But I don't think it's justified.