KMC Comic Book Tiers

Started by Original Smurph485 pages

Originally posted by -Pr-
you think he shouldn't be?
I didn't realize he had the feats to back that up.

i'd say vulcan could be moved up and i don't buy the bb 'holding back' argument at all, but i'm fine if he stays where he is for now. we need a stip then regarding warlock. current warlock should probably be low herald, but certainly no higher than mid.

We haven't placed current Warlock. The HH one is "classic." I actually want to see who is in the other cocoon from GotG before we start labeling incarnations of him, though.

Not sure how you don't buy BB holding back. He clearly needed to hold back because of the T-bomb, then absolutely destroyed Vulcan when he finally let loose. In a forum-style battle, what's to stop BB from just leveling Vulcan with about a dozen of those flesh-stripping screams in a row?

Originally posted by Original Smurph
I didn't realize he had the feats to back that up.

Grodd is a planetary - level telepath at least, he could give Professor X a run for his money

Originally posted by Digi
We haven't placed current Warlock. The HH one is "classic." I actually want to see who is in the other cocoon from GotG before we start labeling incarnations of him, though.

Not sure how you don't buy BB holding back. He clearly needed to hold back because of the T-bomb, then absolutely destroyed Vulcan when he finally let loose. In a forum-style battle, what's to stop BB from just leveling Vulcan with about a dozen of those flesh-stripping screams in a row?

same argument can be made for vulcan, regarding holding back. i'm pretty sure it wasn't in HIS interest to get blown up either . . .

bb wasn't able to use his electron manip (his primary offense) nor was he able to dominate physically--his next most preferred choice. he even used his scream in a way we've never before seen. not sure how he uses his ultimate attack, for maybe the first time ever in that manner, but is still holding back. people may think it wasn't depicted properly, but . . . it did its job. after all it DID kill vulcan . . . could he use it repeatedly? i don't know. not sure what the scream takes out of bb. and if he did, it would be unprecedented in comics history and be even CLEARER proof he wasn't holding back.

vulcan supporters could claim he just needed to shut down bb's brain to prevent ANY attacks at all like he did in his first set of appearances. arguments can always be made, but i really don't see how bb was holding back, like i don't think it was PIS for vulcan not to shut his brain down. if bb was holding back, then it could be reasonably said (and with the same amount of proof . . .) that vulcan likely was as well since neither wanted to be blown up.

meh, not the place for the discussion i guess, but . . . you DID ask. 😄

oh, and i'm curious to see who is in the coccoon too . . .

Originally posted by leonidas
same argument can be made for vulcan, regarding holding back. i'm pretty sure it wasn't in HIS interest to get blown up either . . .

It wasn't, but he's insane. He didn't seem to care at all, and even mocked BB about the bomb. You're interpretation isn't awful, but I saw it as being fairly decisive.

Originally posted by Digi
It wasn't, but he's insane. He didn't seem to care at all, and even mocked BB about the bomb.

meh. he was sane enough to challenge him 1on1, and sane enough to beat him down physically for the most part. he was also expressly trying to STOP bb from detonating the bomb so he was sane enough to want to prevent the bomb from going off . . .

You're interpretation isn't awful, but I saw it as being fairly decisive. [/B]

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well, geeee . . . thanks. it was decisive in that the scream ended it, sure. i never said differently. i just don't see bb holding back in the least. rather he was hesitant about screaming--something that is completely in character. i just don't know if he could repeat the scream multiple times, nor do i know for sure just how far the limits of vulcan's regeneration extend. the battle was close enough that i could see them in the same tier though.

If the master blow caused BB to be exhausted, i'm sure a couple of scream would do the same thing. He doesn't have infinite energy you know. Also how loud can you scream before losing your voice? count that and cut it down about 3/4 for a guy who has hardly used his voice since birth

Against moving vulcan up.

I think Bizarro Superman should be moved from low Herald to mid

Originally posted by Peterlane
He doesn't have infinite energy you know.
Black Bolt has a power supply capable of feeding Attilan's gargantuan batteries for the next ten millennia.

That's 10,000 years supplying a city with far more advanced technology than our own.

Originally posted by Original Smurph
Black Bolt has a power supply capable of feeding Attilan's gargantuan batteries for the next ten millennia.

That's 10,000 years supplying a city with far more advanced technology than our own.


which could make that less impressive then him doing it for one of are cities, becuase they more then likly uses there power far more efficiently.

Or it could be more impressive, because advanced tech more than likely needs more power to function.

Originally posted by Mindset
Or it could be more impressive, because advanced tech more than likely needs more power to function.

but if there so advanced would they not have made there technology more efficient?

Originally posted by Battlehammer
but if there so advanced would they not have made there technology more efficient?

both scenarios are possible, but more efficient or no, 10 000 years is a LONG time . . .

keeping vulcan where he is is fine by me for the moment. i don't think we've seen the last of him, and i think he'll demonstrate sooner or later that he deserves to be higher up the chain.

Originally posted by leonidas
both scenarios are possible, but more efficient or no, 10 000 years is a LONG time . . .

keeping vulcan where he is is fine by me for the moment. i don't think we've seen the last of him, and i think he'll demonstrate sooner or later that he deserves to be higher up the chain.


I agree on both

Originally posted by xJLxKing
I think Bizarro Superman should be moved from low Herald to mid

i could support that.

Originally posted by -Pr-
i could support that.

He is basically Superman. It was even stated somewhere (I will try and find it) that he is as strong as Superman, but he is unable to use that strength because of ....problems with his brain. He can match Supergirl, Grundy, and even WW.

Originally posted by Battlehammer
I agree on both

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Originally posted by -Pr-
i could support that.

bizarro to mid? 👆

(never understood why he was in low to begin with . . .)

Originally posted by xJLxKing
He is basically Superman. It was even stated somewhere (I will try and find it) that he is as strong as Superman, but he is unable to use that strength because of ....problems with his brain. He can match Supergirl, Grundy, and even WW.

yup. i think it was in the one where they switched bodies.

Originally posted by leonidas
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bizarro to mid? 👆

(never understood why he was in low to begin with . . .)

i know, seems kinda weird.