KMC Comic Book Tiers

Started by darthgoober485 pages

Originally posted by batdude123
I'm completely fine with people expressing their opinions on why they think Batman should stay at street level. That's never been what the issue is. The issue that I have a problem with is the idea of Batman being kept at street level until BP and Cap are voted on just because that's how you want it.

It demeans the other voters, and it would basically be like ignoring the past couple of weeks completely. 😬

This isn't a package deal. BP and Cap are not being voted on right now. They'll both have their chance to be voted up as soon as the thread reopens.


I think the characters are equal, so why do you have an issue with my wanting them ranked together in the same tier? The only thing that could make me support one moving before another would be to see a feat that the others couldn't touch because from everything I've seen they get they all get the jobs of the same caliber done with an equal level of efficiency even if their methods differ. Isn't that why we have Thor and Supes in the same tier even though Thor is on par strengthwise and far superior in versatility?

Like I said before I don't support either Cap or Bats being bumped without the other being bumped too. By the same logic I've been using the entire time, as long as Batman sits in the High Street tier I don't think Cap has the feats to warrant a low meta placement.

Originally posted by Phantom Zone
You are now trolling. 😬
I'd say you are. You don't have to accept anything. But you're being rather irritating, while ignoring what people have already said. The entire discussion is there. All you're doing is dragging this out.

Originally posted by Phantom Zone
You are now trolling. 😬

No actually, I just dont care. Anyways...just dont quote me.

I dont want to spam this thread.

Originally posted by darthgoober
*blah blah blah*.
Nothing that anyone says is going to change your mind. There's no point in dragging this discussion out.

This vote is dragging on, Digi can we please end this?

Originally posted by darthgoober
I think the characters are equal, so why do you have an issue with my wanting them ranked together in the same tier? The only thing that could make me support one moving before another would be to see a feat that the others couldn't touch because from everything I've seen they get they all get the jobs of the same caliber done with an equal level of efficiency even if their methods differ. Isn't that why we have Thor and Supes in the same tier even though Thor is on par strengthwise and far superior in versatility?

Like I said before I don't support either Cap or Bats being bumped without the other being bumped too. By the same logic I've been using the entire time, as long as Batman sits in the High Street tier I don't think Cap has the feats to warrant a low meta placement.

That's your singular opinion.

You voted "no." Great. That doesn't mean we're going to wait for BP and Cap to be voted on to bump Batman. Especially when the discussions and the voting have been going on for the past couple of weeks.

Like it or not Batman got enough votes in 3 weeks for the bump up, leave it at that. Other votes will happen later.

Originally posted by darthgoober
The problem is that while guys like Cap and BP are still in the "High Street" category, Batman hasn't done anything that puts him outside the recognized limits of the tier.

If Bats is going to be moved, it should wait until characters who's feats are right on par with Bats can be discussed/moved to ensure that equal consideration is given to the abilities of all the relevant characters.

I will have to disagree with this. All characters should be voted on individual merit instead of waiting for other people to get bumped as well.

I'm personally against because I don't think either of the three should be voted up. In all honestly there are a number of people in the High street level that have proven themselves more than capable of hanging with the 3 above mentioned.

I just happen to think that those 3 are the tops of that tier so why move any of them up.

Originally posted by Newjak
I will have to disagree with this. All characters should be voted on individual merit instead of waiting for other people to get bumped as well.

I'm personally against because I don't think either of the three should be voted up. In all honestly there are a number of people in the High street level that have proven themselves more than capable of hanging with the 3 above mentioned.

I just happen to think that those 3 are the tops of that tier so why move any of them up.

I agree with this. Well said ! 👆

Originally posted by batdude123
That's your singular opinion.

You voted "no." Great. That doesn't mean we're going to wait for BP and Cap to be voted on to bump Batman. Especially when the discussions and the voting have been going on for the past couple of weeks.


And I'm willing to support that opinion with feats, that's why I keep asking about what it is that Batman's done to warrant the bump.

And you voted "yes". Great. I'm still not going to stop discussing it when I still feel that my points are being ignored. And my points are simple, Digi said something about us judging characters by other characters within their tier and other characters in Bats current tier have feats right on par with anything I've ever seen from him. That means that as far as I know he's not above the limits of the tier he's currently in and shouldn't be bumped.

Originally posted by darthgoober
I still feel that my points are being ignored.
Welcome to debate... I noticed you do your own share of ignoring points as well.

Originally posted by darthgoober
And I'm willing to support that opinion with feats, that's why I keep asking about what it is that Batman's done to warrant the bump.

And you voted "yes". Great. I'm still not going to stop discussing it when I still feel that my points are being ignored. And my points are simple, Digi said something about us judging characters by other characters within their tier and other characters in Bats current tier have feats right on par with anything I've ever seen from him. That means that as far as I know he's not above the limits of the tier he's currently in and shouldn't be bumped.

I've been discussing this for the past 2 dozen+ pages, and have given my reasons for why Bats should be low meta.

You're damn near trolling at this point.

We should have a ranking system within the tiers. Like a top 10 within each tier, maybe have a separate thread about it. That would stimulate some very interesting debates.

Originally posted by Newjak
I will have to disagree with this. All characters should be voted on individual merit instead of waiting for other people to get bumped as well.

I'm personally against because I don't think either of the three should be voted up. In all honestly there are a number of people in the High street level that have proven themselves more than capable of hanging with the 3 above mentioned.

I just happen to think that those 3 are the tops of that tier so why move any of them up.


Oh I'm only lumping them like that because everything I've seen indicates they're pretty much equal in effectiveness even though their methods differ. If anyone could bring up a feat that was truly above and beyond the feats of the others I'd be more than willing to take him out of the lump, but for right now I see them a lot like I see Thor, Supes, and Surfer.

People shouldn't have jumped in at the end of this vote just to make their points.

This topic is over with.

Originally posted by Sir Faceman
We should have a ranking system within the tiers. Like a top 10 within each tier, maybe have a separate thread about it. That would stimulate some very interesting debates.
That was already discussed and the decision was reached it wouldn't be feasible or a good idea.

Originally posted by batdude123
I've been discussing this for the past dozen+ pages, and have given my reasons for why Bats should be low meta.

You're damn near trolling at this point.

I'd say its more than near. WE keep going round and round about things that have already been discussed. He called you an ass and said you're taking things personally, and that his points are being ignored while ignoring the entire discussion that already occurred.

Like I said, he's just dragging this out like he tried to do with me. It'd probably be best just to put him on ignore so that this isn't dragged out any further.

Originally posted by Creshosk
I'd say its more than near. WE keep going round and round about things that have already been discussed. He called you an ass and said you're taking things personally, and that his points are being ignored while ignoring the entire discussion that already occurred.

Like I said, he's just dragging this out like he tried to do with me. It'd probably be best just to put him on ignore so that this isn't dragged out any further.

Yeah, good call.

Originally posted by The Nuul
People shouldn't have jumped in at the end of this vote just to make their points.

This topic is over with.

Why ? The decision has already been made. There's no reason why we shouldn't hear posters opinions as long as their respectful. Unless a new character is for vote, then why not try to understand why the bump up for Bat's , or any other character for that matter.

Originally posted by batdude123
I've been discussing this for the past 2 dozen+ pages, and have given my reasons for why Bats should be low meta.

You're damn near trolling at this point.


Then stop responding, I'm not making you continue the discussion. I started by addressing something Kris said to Newjack(so it was ongoing regardless of my involvement), you've chosen your own level of participation since then. Digi said there's no rush in the Tier's thread and that the discussion is still open so I'll keep on until my points are addressed or the discussion is closed.

Originally posted by darthgoober
Then stop responding,
Irony. durlaugh