KMC Comic Book Tiers

All the proposed changes seem pretty on point.

Originally posted by Galan007
I PM'd Dambo the other day. He said that he was definitely interested... Not sure why he hasn't chimed in, though. mmm

He hasn't posted or read his PMs since 3rd Jan.

He's still online on fb, though. I could call him if you want 😛

Originally posted by Philosophía
He's probably preparing scans for the inevitable "Thor to high meta" part.

Speaking of which, I think we should go for "general" and not "current" characters. As in, Thor will inevitably get back Mjolnir, so he's not moved to low herald or whatnot just because for now he's a bootleg Thunder God.

I think Captain America is the one left to solve, since the others are not as pressing [Rose Tattoo is to Saint as Alpha Flight is to Mungi], but he's not on the list at all [in Digi's post, I see that in some subsequent ones he's put at high street], and it would be weird to skip street without him. I'm for him to high street, for reasons already stated, and against him to low-meta.

Honestly, back when I was working on it, keeping it as general as possible was the way I wanted to go. Too many up and downward shifts, and like you said, characters in the end tend to go back to a very general level eventually.

That said, I'll defer to whatever Galan thinks in this instance.

Also, +1 for the Catwoman vote.

Yeah seriously, mind-controlled or not, no low street is doing this shit to three Flashes:

https://tinyurl.com/y8fs6x44

It's her proximity to Batman; being godlike seems like it might actually be sexually transmitted.

😂

You beat me to it. Yes, Batsemen has definitely enhanced her.

She didn't let a single drop go to waste.

She's a good egg, that one.

I am here ! Let me take a look at this.

#stiltmagic

For low-meta:
Batman: Phil, Stilt, Bentley, Darksaint, Leo, Galan, Pr
Black Panther: Phil, Silt, Bentley, Darksaint, Leo, Damborg

For High Street:
Cap: Phil, Leo(?), rest?
Winter Soldier: Phil, Bentley, Darksaint, Damborg

For mid-street:
Batroc: Phil, Stilt, Bentley, Darksaint, Leo, Damborg 👆
Black Widow: Phil, Stilt, Bentley, Darksaint, Leo, Damborg
Catwoman: Phil, Silt, Bentley, Darksaint, Leo, Damborg
Damien: Phil, Leo

For low-street:
Two-Face: Phil, Bentley, Darksaint, Damborg
Kate Bishop (Hawkeye): Phil, Bentley, Darksaint, Damborg

Undecided for where:
White Tiger
Rose Tatoo

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As far as White Tiger goes, I think she'd fit fine in Mid Street, but let me find some more scans to back that up.

I'm fine with Cap moving.

So general means what, we look at them both pre and post 52 unless it's glaring (Zauriel, I'm looking at you?)

i think we can take a generalized approach and just note those whose versions were vastly different. zauriel was extremely difficult to place before the reboot and was more powerful afterwards so we can place them in different tiers and just note it. there won't be very many who require tier changes i don't think...

anyway, as for white tiger--the mighty avengers 2013 #7 showcases what she can do if possessed by the tiger god, and peter parker spec spiderman vol 1 #10 shows what hector was able to do. he fought spidey several times to standstills or near standstills. hard to see anyone able to fight spidey like that and stay mid street, but i'm not losing sleep over the character. just not sure mid street would be the most accurate placing for those 2 versions. not sure the other version had the amulet.

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If there ends up being different iterations of a particular character that people are ranking, I'll just make sure to note it in the master list.

Ultimate Cap and 616 Cap might be another example.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
I'm fine with Cap moving.

So general means what, we look at them both pre and post 52 unless it's glaring (Zauriel, I'm looking at you?)

Oh I thought we were voting for Cap to move to High Street 😂

😐 i'm fine if cap stays at high street as well. i just think a strong case could be made based on his feats and fights for a low meta placement. either works though.

i'm going to glance through the meta tier later on today.

Originally posted by -Pr-
Also, +1 for the Catwoman vote.

Captain America for high street sounds fine to me. Without his shield his gear is quite behind with the batfamily in general, but he'd still spank the kids.

I'm fine with Damien in mid-street.

Judge Dredd for low-meta?

Should we demote Beast to high street? I see him losing to his entire tier consistently?

So, the final votes, with the "volunteers' in bold:

For low-meta:
Batman: Phil, Stilt, Bentley, Darksaint, Leo, Galan, Pr
Black Panther: Phil, Silt, Bentley, Darksaint, Leo, Damborg

For High Street:
Cap: Phil, Leo, Darksaint, Bentley
Winter Soldier: Phil, Bentley, Darksaint, Damborg

For mid-street:
Batroc: Phil, Stilt, Bentley, Darksaint, Leo, Damborg
Black Widow: Phil, Stilt, Bentley, Darksaint, Leo, Damborg
Catwoman: Phil, Silt, Bentley, Darksaint, Leo, Pr, Damborg
Damien: Phil, Leo, Bentley

For low-street:
Two-Face: Phil, Bentley, Darksaint, Damborg
Kate Bishop (Hawkeye): Phil, Bentley, Darksaint, Damborg

@Bentley I think we'll try to get all of the new picks after all of this is done, and Beast is talked about in this new round.

I guess we can now move the the meta-tier....

This will take a while.

Sooo, to get this started, my proposals for the meta-tier:

Up:

Cyborg (Vic) to high meta from mid-meta
Nova (Classic) to high-meta from mid-meta
Blue Beetle (Jaime Reyes) to high-meta from mid-meta
Morlun to high-meta from mid-meta
Ms. Marvel (Carol) to high-meta from mid-meta
Sebastian Shaw to high-meta from mid-meta
I'd think Multiple Man would also be a mid-meta, from low-meta.

Down:

Mr Fantastic to mid-meta from high-meta
Gamora to mid-meta from high-meta, maybe
Shang Chi to high-street
Imo, either Northstar/Aurora down to mid-meta, or Quicksilver to high-meta, unless we leave Quicksilver to "classic".