Can you handle the Truth?

Started by AngryManatee432 pages

There's no factual proof of a god existing. None.

Originally posted by dadudemon
I don't want to insult your intelligence by telling your are utterly wrong and posting a link because you get more than enough insults from here.

Without continuing our conversation further, please review the hows and whys of black hole evaporation. Once you have studied up on how something can come from nothing, then I expect you to admit fault...just as I would if the tables were turned. It is part of being a Christian to admit fault when wrong. Do you agree that it is Christ-like to swallow your pride and admit fault?

I do. This is why I apologize when I am wrong.

Originally posted by JesusIsAlive
Uh...I believe that it is the other way around. Something [b]becomes nothing (virtually), not comes from nothing. Stars supposedly burn out to form black holes.

Although in God's creative work something does come from nothing. God is the only one Who can create something from nothing. [/B]

God is the only one Who can create something from nothing.
besides good stock traders

Originally posted by AngryManatee
There's no factual proof of a god existing. None.

Originally posted by JesusIsAlive
Who invented scientific theory? Is scientific theory an absolute? But atheists claim that there are no absolutes. The scientific method is applicable in everyday life so it can be used for anything right? Can a Christian use the scientific method to substantiate the existence of the transcendent God? Why or why not? I believe so. I believe that they are applicable to God. They may not provide a photo of God, but they corroborate His existence nontheless.

Observation: The universe, planets, stars, earth, fundamental forces, cells, life, etc. are very complicated.

Question: Why are they so complicated? How do they exist? Why do they exist?

Hypothesis: The universe, planets, stars, earth, fundamental forces, cells, life, etc. are very complicated because they were designed by Someone Who possesses sufficient wisdom, knowledge, intelligence, and power to create them.

Prediction: If the hypothesis is correct, THEN if those things are analyzed they should reveal, show, or evince evidence of design.

Experiment or Observation: Analyze the universe, planets, stars, earth, fundamental forces, cells, life, etc.

Conclusion: The universe, planets, stars, earth, fundamental forces, cells, life, etc. are very complicated because they were designed by Someone Who possesses sufficient wisdom, knowledge, intelligence, and power to create them hypothesis is supported.

Besides, the proof of God's existence is all around you. You must ask God to reveal Himself to you (in Jesus Name of course because you can only come to the Father through Jesus). Once you do this it will be as if scales have fallen from your eyes. You will see evidence for God's existence in everything that the Scriptures state that God created.

what this JIA? in lack of being able to love your own voice in here this is what comes closest or...................you just lame

Originally posted by JesusIsAlive

Your post does show your ignorance of how these things work.

http://www.perimeterinstitute.ca/personal/dgottesman/infoloss.html

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hawking_radiation

http://cosmology.berkeley.edu/Education/BHfaq.html#q8

"One of the consequences of the uncertainty principle of quantum mechanics is that it's possible for the law of energy conservation to be violated, but only for very short durations. The Universe is able to produce mass and energy out of nowhere, but only if that mass and energy disappear again very quickly. One particular way in which this strange phenomenon manifests itself goes by the name of vacuum fluctuations. Pairs consisting of a particle and antiparticle can appear out of nowhere, exist for a very short time, and then annihilate each other. Energy conservation is violated when the particles are created, but all of that energy is restored when they annihilate again. As weird as all of this sounds, we have actually confirmed experimentally that these vacuum fluctuations are real.

Now, suppose one of these vacuum fluctuations happens near the horizon of a black hole. It may happen that one of the two particles falls across the horizon, while the other one escapes. The one that escapes carries energy away from the black hole and may be detected by some observer far away. To that observer, it will look like the black hole has just emitted a particle. This process happens repeatedly, and the observer sees a continuous stream of radiation from the black hole."

Originally posted by anaconda
what this JIA? in lack of being able to love your own voice in here this is what comes closest or...................you just lame

That was unnecessary. Don't insult people like that.

Originally posted by anaconda
what this JIA? in lack of being able to love your own voice in here this is what comes closest or...................you just lame

We have never officially met. Hi anaconda, my user name is JesusIsAlive. I picked this name as a testament to the risen Savior Jesus the Christ. He was once dead, but now He is surely alive. Surely, I tell you: Jesus lives. Get to know Him.

Originally posted by dadudemon
Your post does show your ignorance of how these things work.

http://www.perimeterinstitute.ca/personal/dgottesman/infoloss.html

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hawking_radiation

http://cosmology.berkeley.edu/Education/BHfaq.html#q8

"One of the consequences of the uncertainty principle of quantum mechanics is that it's possible for the law of energy conservation to be violated, but only for very short durations. The Universe is able to produce mass and energy out of nowhere, but only if that mass and energy disappear again very quickly. One particular way in which this strange phenomenon manifests itself goes by the name of vacuum fluctuations. Pairs consisting of a particle and antiparticle can appear out of nowhere, exist for a very short time, and then annihilate each other. Energy conservation is violated when the particles are created, but all of that energy is restored when they annihilate again. As weird as all of this sounds, we have actually confirmed experimentally that these vacuum fluctuations are real.

Now, suppose one of these vacuum fluctuations happens near the horizon of a black hole. It may happen that one of the two particles falls across the horizon, while the other one escapes. The one that escapes carries energy away from the black hole and may be detected by some observer far away. To that observer, it will look like the black hole has just emitted a particle. This process happens repeatedly, and the observer sees a continuous stream of radiation from the black hole."

I appreciate your effort and work. But, can you explain where the universe originated from?

Originally posted by JesusIsAlive
I appreciate your effort and work. But, can you explain where the universe originated from?

From God. DUUUUUUUH!!! 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆

Sorry, man, I couldn't resist. 😆

Edit- You did know that I was a Christian, didn't you?

💃 🙂 😄 😱 🤣 😆

Nope, actually I did not know that you were a believer. For some reason I was unable to reply to your post with a quote so I had to do without it.

Hey, what is with the whole Oklahoma weed thing (just curious)?

That was unnecessary. Don't insult people like that.

I do as I see fit
We have never officially met. Hi anaconda, my user name is JesusIsAlive. I picked this name as a testament to the risen Savior Jesus the Christ. He was once dead, but now He is surely alive. Surely, I tell you: Jesus lives. Get to know Him.
whatever rocks YOUR boat, oh and by the way Hi

Originally posted by JesusIsAlive
Besides, the proof of God's existence is all around you. You must ask God to reveal Himself to you (in Jesus Name of course because you can only come to the Father through Jesus). Once you do this it will be as if scales have fallen from your eyes. You will see evidence for God's existence in everything that the Scriptures state that God created.

Observations of design are not necessarily evidence of a designer, and even then, evidence of a designer is not necessarily evidence of God.

Intelligent design theory is an inherently secular belief system. Some may choose to color it with their beliefs of God, but that is not what IDT is about.

Some may choose to color it with their beliefs of God, but that is not what IDT is about.
and some color it with a shitty color on a black background

Yeah, we get it, you're retarded. Now GTFO.

Originally posted by JesusIsAlive
Where did the vacuum and its intrinsic energy originate?

A true vacuum is nothingness, and nothingness is unstable.

But still THAT is part of the whole.

Does anyone understand me? 😕

Originally posted by JesusIsAlive
Instability is a "something." Can you be more specific? What "kind" of instability?

No. You will have to look up zero point energy.

Originally posted by JesusIsAlive
💃 🙂 😄 😱 🤣 😆

Nope, actually I did not know that you were a believer. For some reason I was unable to reply to your post with a quote so I had to do without it.

Hey, what is with the whole Oklahoma weed thing (just curious)?

oklahoma has a shitload of weed, duh. dontcha smoke teh ganges?

Originally posted by Deja~vu
But still THAT is part of the whole.

Does anyone understand me? 😕

no