Originally posted by JesusIsAliveI would understand my creation and love to watch them. I would not put restrictions on them because I made them and understood what they were capable of. I would enjoy interaction with them on all levels. I wouldn't scare them that they would never be good enough for my interactions. I would make sure that they understood that this life was just a story of experiences and nothing that would condemn them. I would encourage them to explore all there is in this life without retribution. I would enjoy all that I had created. i would hope all my creations would enjoy this life and if they didn't that they would understand that this is not the means to and end, but an experience that could be remembered.
How would things be different if you were God?
Originally posted by Deja~vu
I would understand my creation and love to watch them. I would not put restrictions on them because I made them and understood what they were capable of. I would enjoy interaction with them on all levels. I wouldn't scare them that they would never be good enough for my interactions. I would make sure that they understood that this life was just a story of experiences and nothing that would condemn them. I would encourage them to explore all there is in this life without retribution. I would enjoy all that I had created. i would hope all my creations would enjoy this life and if they didn't that they would understand that this is not the means to and end, but an experience that could be remembered.
Is restriction a negative thing? Should children explore all there is in life without consequences?
...to be continued.
Originally posted by JesusIsAliveWhy would god give negatives to his creations? What harm would it do him? He is far above all of us. Don't you think that a loving and creative god would want us to explore all that was given to us?
Is restriction a negative thing? Should children explore all there is in life without consequences?...to be continued.
Why the consequences? That would not be a being of great strength...it would be one of limited understanding.
If one had a pet and the pet did wrong, would we torment it forever? I say NO...We are understanding ...is god little, much little than we are?
Originally posted by JesusIsAlive
You have an interesting way of showing your joy and happiness apart from Jesus Christ.I apologize for coming of smug and self-assured.
Uh...that's all.
How would you know how I show my joy, much less experience it? You don't know me. What you know of me comes from our infrequent interaction on this website. I don't see you finding much pleasure on this website, other than being a slave to your self-induced dillusion that you have to spend every minute of your time on here telling other's how wrong they are if they don't do the same. (which is actually a cover for your desire to irritate everyone with this character you're playing...which is sad on a whole different level) And if that's any indication of how you spend your time in real life, then don't feel sorry for me.
I do not apologize for belittling your dillusion and your desire for everyone else to join you in it.
Originally posted by Deja~vu
Why would god give negatives to his creations? What harm would it do him? He is far above all of us. Don't you think that a loving and creative god would want us to explore all that was given to us?Why the consequences? That would not be a being of great strength...it would be one of limited understanding.
If one had a pet and the pet did wrong, would we torment it forever? I say NO...We are understanding ...is god little, much little than we are?
You just answered a question with a question without answering the question. I asked the question: "Is restriction a negative thing?" I am not saying that God has given negatives. Do you follow me? So, tell me: are restrictions a negative thing?
I believe a loving, creative God would want us to explore all that was given to us in accordance with His rules. We all acknowledge that God is the Creator, but we seem to have a problem with the fact that as our Creator, He reserves the right to determine how life should be lived out.
The consequences are the result of our actions not His will. God as the Creator has told us what we must do in order to experience the abundant life as He intended for us to live. The onus of whether or not we do those things that produce that life rests on us not God. For example, your boss, parents, and society in general make the rules as it were concerning where the standard is for us to be beneficiaries of goodness. Goodness, blessing, and benefit is not an automatic occurrence. There is a mutual responsibility and part to play for both parties involved. It is the same principle with reference to God. Just as your employer rewards a faithful, diligent employee, God blesses a faithful son or daughter of His. Just as a parent loves to shower their children with good things, God desires to do the same. I don't know any parents that will consistently shower a defiant, willfully disobedient son or daughter. The love is there but the desire to bless that child is nonexistent. No good parent should reward disobedience and rebellion. Those negative actions should be discouraged and resisted because they will only lead to worse behavior that could land the son or daugther in prison for the rest of their life. So consequences are designed to discourage wrong, negative, destructive behavior.
So, a father and mother who warn their son or daughter that there are consequences for disobedience and rebellion both in the home and in life in general (especially the real world) lack great strength and are of limited understanding? So...suppose society took that approach. Imagine that that there were no consequences for drinking and driving no matter how many people are killed. No consequences for taking things from others that they value deeply like a sentimental gift from a husband, wife, boyfriend, girlfriend, or grandparent, or a family heirloom. No consequences for terrorism (all perpetrators are exonerated and released from jail), murder, rape, or any other crime. All women abusers are free to go back to their victims and abuse them again because there are no consequences in life. I am not being silly or facetious I am attempting to understand your viewpoint. If God cannot establish consequences for disobedience and rebellion then neither should anyone else. (Not parents and not society.) Can you see the double standard that would exist in that line of thinking?
Again, a father and mother who warn their son or daughter that their are consequences for disobedience and rebellion both in the home and in society lack great strength and are of limited understanding?
Originally posted by JesusIsAlive
I am not saying that God has given negatives.
By the skillful and sustained use of propaganda, one can make a people see even heaven as hell or an extremely wretched life as paradise.
-Adolf Hitler
I imagine the reverse of those is true as well. That you consider the negatives to be positives simply by virtue that everything came from god doesn't mean they magically become positives.
Originally posted by JesusIsAliveSo a mother and father can kill their kid any time they want? Does that sound logical? You really do have some twisted logic and what about the "Thou shall not kill" or does that not apply to God? Practice what you preach.
God the giver of life reserves the right to withdraw that life.... Does this sound logical?
Originally posted by Deja~vu
I would understand my creation and love to watch them. I would not put restrictions on them because I made them and understood what they were capable of. I would enjoy interaction with them on all levels. I wouldn't scare them that they would never be good enough for my interactions. I would make sure that they understood that this life was just a story of experiences and nothing that would condemn them. I would encourage them to explore all there is in this life without retribution. I would enjoy all that I had created . i would hope all my creations would enjoy this life and if they didn't that they would understand that this is not the means to and end, but an experience that could be remembered.
John 3:16
For God so loved the world that He gave His only begotten Son, that whoever believes in Him should not perish but have everlasting life.
1 Peter 5:7
casting all your care upon Him, for He cares for you.
Luke 6:35
But love your enemies, do good, and lend, hoping for nothing in return; and your reward will be great, and you will be sons of the Most High. For He is kind to the unthankful and evil.
Matthew 6:8,
8 “Therefore do not be like them. For your Father knows the things you have need of before you ask Him. 30 Now if God so clothes the grass of the field, which today is, and tomorrow is thrown into the oven, will He not much more clothe you, O you of little faith?
31 “Therefore do not worry, saying, ‘What shall we eat?’ or ‘What shall we drink?’ or ‘What shall we wear?’ 32 For after all these things the Gentiles seek. For your heavenly Father knows that you need all these things. 33 But seek first the kingdom of God and His righteousness, and all these things shall be added to you.
Psalm 146:9
The LORD watches over the strangers;He relieves the fatherless and widow; But the way of the wicked He turns upside down.
Proverbs 3:12
For whom the LORD loves He corrects,
Just as a father the son in whom he delights.
Proverbs 2:10-11
When wisdom enters your heart,
And knowledge is pleasant to your soul,
11 Discretion will preserve you;
Understanding will keep you,
Genesis 1:31
Then God saw everything that He had made, and indeed it was very good. So the evening and the morning were the sixth day.
Luke 12:6-7
6 “Are not five sparrows sold for two copper coins? And not one of them is forgotten before God. 7 But the very hairs of your head are all numbered. Do not fear therefore; you are of more value than many sparrows.
Psalm 103:14
For He knows our frame; He remembers that we are dust.
Psalm 25:8
Good and upright is the LORD;Therefore He teaches sinners in the way.
Psalm 145:9
The LORD is good to all,And His tender mercies are over all His works.
Romans 5:8
But God demonstrates His own love toward us , in that while we were still sinners, Christ died for us.
1 Corinthians 1:9
God is faithful, by whom you were called into the fellowship of His Son, Jesus Christ our Lord.
1 John 1:3
that which we have seen and heard we declare to you, that you also may have fellowship with us; and truly our fellowship is with the Father and with His Son Jesus Christ.
2 Corinthians 13:14
The grace of the Lord Jesus Christ, and the love of God, and the communion of the Holy Spirit be with you all. Amen.
Jeremiah 29:11
For I know the thoughts that I think toward you, says the LORD, thoughts of peace and not of evil, to give you a future and a hope.
Genesis 3:8
And they heard the sound of the LORD God walking in the garden in the cool of the day , and Adam and his wife hid themselves from the presence of the LORD God among the trees of the garden.
John 14:21, 23
He who has My commandments and keeps them, it is he who loves Me. And he who loves Me will be loved by My Father, and I will love him and manifest Myself to him.” 23 Jesus answered and said to him, “If anyone loves Me, he will keep My word; and My Father will love him, and We will come to him and make Our home with him.
Revelation 3:20
Behold, I stand at the door and knock. If anyone hears My voice and opens the door, I will come in to him and dine with him, and he with Me.
God loves, cares for, watches, and understands us (indicated in green). God gives us restrictions to protect, preserve, and secure or well-being not stop us from enjoying life (indicated in purple). God enjoys all that He has created so much that He called it good. Furthermore, God enjoys us so much that He wants a relationship with us. He wants to fellowship with us (indicated in orange).
Originally posted by AngryManatee
Exactly, so if things are worse now then back then, why hasn't he done anything about it?
Acts 17:31
because He has appointed a day on which He will judge the world in righteousness by the Man whom He has ordained . He has given assurance of this to all by raising Him from the dead.”
John 5:22
For the Father judges no one, but has committed all judgment to the Son ,
Acts 1:7
And He said to them, “It is not for you to know times or seasons which the Father has put in His own authority .
Jesus Christ will judge all of humanity one day. God does everything in the appointed time.
Originally posted by JesusIsAlive
God is the Judge of all flesh so unlike a parent He reserves absolute authority over the life of all flesh as well.
Originally posted by JesusIsAlive
You rape teenage girls?😕
There is an appointed time for everything in the Kingdom of God, including the judgment of all flesh.
The idea of a judgment day is a scare tactic to keep the masses under control. If people know that there was no judgment beyond this life, they might over throw the people in power.