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Originally posted by JesusIsAlive
I am not sure how many different equine variations God created originally because the Bible does not reveal this. But the mechanism for variation allowed for difference within a kind.

There are a number of theories about the origin of Neanderthal fossils. I do not subscribe to any one at this time.

Must have been all of them at the same time, as species diversification happening in the 6k years you think the Earth is, isn't likely possible. On that note, what do you think of human recorded history that predates your 6k year time-line?

So you just assume Neanderthals didn't exist at all, despite the evidence that they did can be seen? That sir is one serious dedication to ignorance.

Edit: Then again, you think all the differences within modern humans spawned out of just eight people and it all happened within the span of 4k years. Or was Noah and the seven a combo of Caucasian, Asian, Negro, Pacific Islander (and all the subgroups to boot) etc. etc. etc. etc. etc. How do you rationalize this happening, given the size of the group and the length of time alotted?

Originally posted by Robtard
Mutation leads to micro-evolution, given other factors are in order, so if you're going to continue to use the term "macroevolution", accept that macro-e is composed of many (little) steps of micro-e,

A fish doesn't just spawn offspring with legs and lungs capable of land use, as you think macro-e is.

Your analogy is idiotic.

Microevolution does not lead to macroevolution no matter how much time is involved. There is no evidence of this only wishful thinking and conjecture.

There is no evidence of any fish with legs (an artists rendering of this is not proof).

Originally posted by Robtard
Must have been all of them at the same time, as species diversification happening in the 6k years you think the Earth is, isn't likely possible. On that note, what do you think of human recorded history that predates your 6k year time-line?

So you just assume Neanderthals didn't exist at all, despite the evidence that they did can be seen? That sir is one serious dedication to ignorance.

I don't subscribe to any recorded history that contradicts the Bible.

I haven't studied Neanderthal origin enough to embrace any position yet other than my current one.

Originally posted by Robtard
Must have been all of them at the same time, as species diversification happening in the 6k years you think the Earth is, isn't likely possible. On that note, what do you think of human recorded history that predates your 6k year time-line?

So you just assume Neanderthals didn't exist at all, despite the evidence that they did can be seen? That sir is one serious dedication to ignorance.

Edit: Then again, you think all the differences within modern humans spawned out of just eight people and it all happened within the span of 4k years. Or was Noah and the seven a combo of Caucasian, Asian, Negro, Pacific Islander (and all the subgroups to boot) etc. etc. etc. etc. etc.

Not sure how all ethnic groups came to be, perhaps the dispersion during the construction of the Tower of Babel marked the introduction of all of the different groups. Perhaps God supernaturally created all of the various groups at that time and placed each one where they are geographically from one blood.

Originally posted by JesusIsAlive
Not sure how all ethnic groups came to be, perhaps the dispersion during the construction of the Tower of Babel marked the introduction of all of the different groups. Perhaps God supernaturally created all of the various groups at that time and placed each one where they are geographically from one blood.

why are you assuming when the bible should be taken literal and accurate... unless god said otherwise

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Originally posted by JesusIsAlive
I don't subscribe to any recorded history that contradicts the Bible.

I haven't studied Neanderthal origin enough to embrace any position yet other than my current one.

So the Egyptians, the Chinese, the Inca etc. etc. etc., all either didn't exist despite having recorded history which predates your 6k years or were they just lying?

You said you don't believe they existed at all, so what are these very human yet different looking remains?

when you dig your heels you really dig them in... not even a tsunami of evidence of civilization records is even enough to show you the unlikely event of the 6k world creation myth.

is ignorance a sin in the bible? just like to be reminded again.

Originally posted by JesusIsAlive
Not sure how all ethnic groups came to be, perhaps the dispersion during the construction of the Tower of Babel marked the introduction of all of the different groups. Perhaps God supernaturally created all of the various groups at that time and placed each one where they are geographically from one blood.

The Tower came after the great flood, so logically the people that built it were direct descendants of Noah and the seven, so they all would have been of the same line, ie same basic appearance, unless you think Noah and the seven were all/some were Asian, negro, Caucasian etc.?

Now that's a stretch, no? Wouldn't that most likely be included in the Bible, something of that epic proportions, God creating people yet again? Besides, didn't God do all his creating in the first 6 days?

Originally posted by Robtard
The Tower came after the great flood, so logically the people that built it were direct descendants of Noah and the seven, so they all would have been of the same line, ie same basic appearance, unless you think Noah and the seven were all/some were Asian, negro, Caucasian etc.?

Now that's a stretch, no? Wouldn't that most likely be included in the Bible, something of that epic proportions, God creating people yet again? Besides, didn't God do all his creating in the first 6 days?

He scattered the people as I recall...

Originally posted by Grand-Moff-Gav
He scattered the people as I recall...

And this scattering changed them physically on a massive scale? ie out of each shake (or what have you) the Asians, Negros, Innuits and all the subgroups spawned?

Originally posted by Robtard
And this scattering changed them physically?

Anything is possible. 😉

Originally posted by Robtard
So the Egyptians, the Chinese, the Inca etc. etc. etc., all either didn't exist despite having recorded history which predates your 6k years or were they just lying?

You said you don't believe they existed at all, so what are these very human yet different looking remains?

No they all existed. Perhaps the dating method is inaccurate.

I don't believe that Neanderthals existed in the sense that they are portrayed (to be continued on this subject though).

Originally posted by Robtard
And this scattering changed them physically on a massive scale? ie out of each shake (or what have you) the Asians, Negros, Innuits and all the subgroups spawned?

It says they were given new tongues, perhaps that included culture/appearance etc.

Originally posted by Robtard
The Tower came after the great flood, so logically the people that built it were direct descendants of Noah and the seven, so they all would have been of the same line, ie same basic appearance, unless you think Noah and the seven were all/some were Asian, negro, Caucasian etc.?

Now that's a stretch, no? Wouldn't that most likely be included in the Bible, something of that epic proportions, God creating people yet again? Besides, didn't God do all his creating in the first 6 days?

I don't believe that God created new people. He may have just had something to do with the phenotypical differences that we observe among the human race.

Nevertheless, this is the problem with trying to think outside of what has already been provided in the Bible. It can lead to all kinds of unnecessary discussions. The point is we are here and so is ethnic diversity.

Originally posted by JesusIsAlive
No they all existed. Perhaps the dating method is inaccurate.

I don't believe that Neanderthals existed in the sense that they are portrayed (to be continued on this subject though).

there dating method was astrologically based did the acient civilzations get this wrong too?

how do you think neanderthal are portrayed that does not agree with you.

Originally posted by Grand-Moff-Gav
It says they were given new tongues, perhaps that included culture/appearance etc.

Exactly what I am trying to convey.

Originally posted by JesusIsAlive

I don't believe that Neanderthals existed in the sense that they are portrayed (to be continued on this subject though).

You mean all the physiological differences between them and ancient/modern man?

Originally posted by Grand-Moff-Gav
It says they were given new tongues, perhaps that included culture/appearance etc.

but that was not explicitly stated in the bible.. therefore some fundamentalist cant make that assumption...

Originally posted by JesusIsAlive
No they all existed. Perhaps the dating method is inaccurate.

I don't believe that Neanderthals existed in the sense that they are portrayed (to be continued on this subject though).

Odd that you accept the dating methods for the last 6k years as fact, but if those same methods are applied elsewhere and they don't gel with your 6k year time-line, those same methods are now in error. Odd, that.

I don't think you know what to think. The remains are there, they conflict with your own personal interpretations of the Bible, so you avoid and bury your head in the sand. That is until you have time to read-up on the basics of Neanderthals and invent some story that grooves with your own views.

Originally posted by Robtard
And this scattering changed them physically on a massive scale? ie out of each shake (or what have you) the Asians, Negros, Innuits and all the subgroups spawned?

This is pure extrapolation and conjecture (which I am averse to) but that is perhaps how it all transpired. Perhaps geography, environment, diet all played a part or maybe God just supernaturally altered their genetic composition which gave rise to all of the ethnic diversity that exist (all from one blood though).