Can you handle the Truth?

Athenian Slaves were usually pretty well treated, admittedly there were areas of slavery that could be very harsh i.e. silver mines but on the whole the life and experience of an Athenian slave would have much better than that of an African Slave in the USA.

Roman Slaves were very similar to the Athenian slaves, often they earned or bought their freedom (they were paid) and when they didn't they could find themselves living very comfortable lives. An urban slave would have a better quality of life than a rural citizen.

In the case of Ancient Slavery YES there was serious hardships and terrible conditions for some slaves, however it was nothing like the slavery experienced by the African peoples.

Doesn’t really matter, the point is that there were “traditional” slaves in Jesus’ time which JIA says they were not. Yes were some treated better than others is not the point which even happened with African slaves but the point is that JIA wants to say that slave meant servant, because their were not “slaves” at that time.

Originally posted by Ordo
He hasn't even interpreted it. He's made up his own theory, falsified it, then claimed the actual Theory is wrong. It like the ultimate straw man argument.

Why would I falsify that which I don't believe?

so we got slavery out of the way how about jonah and the whale, factual or metaphorical?

Originally posted by JesusIsAlive
Why would I falsify that which I don't understand?

Originally posted by JesusIsAlive
Why would I falsify that which I don't believe?

Because you're trying to convince us that it is false and affirm your own misconceptions in the process.

Originally posted by JesusIsAlive
I do not believe that all life evolved from a common ancestor. It is not possible.

You characterize my disbelief as intentional unwillingness to understand. I do understand the theory of evolution, I just don't believe it. Evolution is not plausible, viable, sensible, or factual. But it is traditional and popular.

You contradict your supposed understanding of it with this very post. Either you illustrate a contradiction or you illustrate that intentional unwillingness to understand.

Originally posted by Wild Shadow
so we got slavery out of the way how about jonah and the whale, factual or metaphorical?

What whale? Go back and read the Bible.

I believe the Jonah account is very factual.

Originally posted by Ordo
Because you're trying to convince us that it is false and affirm your own misconceptions in the process.

No, I am trying to convince you to be as rational and logical about the origin of the universe as you are about everything else in life.

Originally posted by JesusIsAlive
What whale? Go back and read the Bible.

oh i am sorry.. i guess you would call it a big fish.. damn me for my presumption. 😛

Originally posted by Wild Shadow
oh i am sorry.. i guess you would call it a big fish.. damn me for my presumption. 😛

Whales are mammals after all. There's a huge difference. Namely that whales evolved from . . . wait the difference is that . . . crap.

Originally posted by Wild Shadow
oh i am sorry.. i guess you would call it a big fish.. damn me for my presumption. 😛

It's okay we all make presumptions sometimes.

Originally posted by JesusIsAlive
It's okay we all make presumptions sometimes.

yeah you are right i should take things more literal when reading old scriptures.. and try not to use my modern thinking, reasoning and understanding to make sense of things.. 😇

Originally posted by JesusIsAlive
No, I am trying to convince you to be as rational and logical about the origin of the universe as you are about everything else in life.

Originally posted by JesusIsAlive
What whale? Go back and read the Bible.

I believe the Jonah account is very factual.

Originally posted by JesusIsAlive
No, I am trying to convince you to be as rational and logical about the origin of the universe as you are about everything else in life.

Originally posted by JesusIsAlive
It's okay we all make presumptions sometimes.

I will take your unwillingness to respond to my post while going out of your way to do so for others as a clear indication that I should not waste my time interacting with you. Likely this end should have been reached from the first moment I recognized your unwillingness to consider or respond to arguments with posters that demonstrate an obvious understanding of some information you have intentionally tried to avoid for the majority of your life.

Originally posted by Ace of Knaves
I will take your unwillingness to respond to my post while going out of your way to do so for others as a clear indication that I should not waste my time interacting with you. Likely this end should have been reached from the first moment I recognized your unwillingness to consider or respond to arguments with posters that demonstrate an obvious understanding of some information you have intentionally tried to avoid for the majority of your life.

About five posters at one time over as many threads are throwing questions at him, don't throw a hissy fit because he has not bothered himself to take on another person. If you really want an answer- PM him...

What you say after your first sentence makes no sense- he is answering people's questions and is engaging in debate. So it is a lie to say he is unwilling to consider/respond to arguments with posters who say things that he rejects...i.e. his arguments with EVERYONE over evolution...

Originally posted by Ace of Knaves
I will take your unwillingness to respond to my post while going out of your way to do so for others as a clear indication that I should not waste my time interacting with you. Likely this end should have been reached from the first moment I recognized your unwillingness to consider or respond to arguments with posters that demonstrate an obvious understanding of some information you have intentionally tried to avoid for the majority of your life.

Originally posted by JesusIsAlive
I am not open to the possibility that the Bible may be wrong because [B]I believe that it is the Word of God; hence, I believe the Bible is infallible. I believe that the Bible is the absolute revelation from God to humanity, not any other book (this is my belief). [/B]

by answering their statements is giving them acknowledgment and validating them.. we should really move to the religion using science thread..

Originally posted by Wild Shadow
by answering their statements is giving them acknowledgment and validating them.. we should really move to the religion using science thread..

Originally posted by JesusIsAlive
No, I am trying to convince you to be as rational and logical about the origin of the universe as you are about everything else in life.

I am, in fact, rational and logical, as demonstrated time and time again in the superiority of my arguments over yours.

In fact, I haven't even addressed the origin of the universe. My battles are over life, evolution, and natural selection because these are the topics that I am most informed on and spend my life involved in.