Can you handle the Truth?

Started by JesusIsAlive432 pages
Originally posted by Keith Talent
You neither understand religion or science. It's quite sad. You don't love people, mate. Don't kid yourself. You're spend your life on earth being a moron, hoping for a happier after life. You want to love people? Get off the internet and go volunteer at a hospital. Actually go about making a difference in the world instead of insulting peoples beliefs. None of what you say on this forum has changed anyone, nor will it.

So I have to do what you suggest or I don't love people? That is false.

Question: why are atheists so bitter and mad at the world?

Originally posted by JesusIsAlive
So I have to do what you suggest or I don't love people? That is false.

Question: why are atheists so bitter and mad at the world?

I am not bitter or mad at the world. You don't love people because you don't respect them enough to allow them to make their own choices.

Originally posted by JesusIsAlive
So I have to do what you suggest or I don't love people? That is false.

Question: why are atheists so bitter and mad at the world?

No we are not, but you seem to be. How and the F are we mad at the world, we are more mad a people like you.
Originally posted by JesusIsAlive
Because I love people and don't want them to go to Hell.

Because I have been commanded to go into all the world and preach the gospel.

I don't have a problem. I don't curse or insult people yet I am consistently accused of having a problem.

I am very educated and enlightened that does not mean that I know everything. But what I do know is that Jesus Christ is the only Way to the Father (God in Heaven). There is no other way to God. People need to know this so that they don't waste their lives seeking God in false religions or atheism.

This is the truth can you handle it?

No you do want people to go to Hell like me, I have already shown you that. You do call people names and insult them all the time like liar, dumb, illogical and so on and so forth. You lie all the time in this thread, spam the religion forum breaking the rules, be rude to other posters, ignore questions form people that you are talking with, simply ignore others like me yet you claim that you are a true follower of Christ and that you love others and don't want to see them go to Hell?

Originally posted by JesusIsAlive
I just gave you a quote that shows that they believe quantum fluctuations are uncaused.

Okay, what causes quantum/vacuum fluctuations?

Again, see point 10:00 in the clip, Mr. Hovind explains how in six thousand years all the people on earth could have multiplied.

YouTube video

I still don’t get why you are so angry and insulting. Again, with all due respect were you abused as a child? Do you have some issues?

What evidence do scientists have that the universe spontaneously emerged into existence from a vacuum fluctuation?

What caused the vacuum fluctuation?

I'm sorry JesusIsAlive but Dr. Kent's idea are reaches and missing a lot of information and I do not see how the moon moving away from the earth says that the earth is only 6000 years old. I have seen many videos about Dr. Kent's lectures and while I like this faith in trying to show that science and the bible are similar he over generalizis things and make giant leaps in his conculsions.

Originally posted by JesusIsAlive

Again, see point 10:00 in the clip, Mr. Hovind explains how in six thousand years all the people on earth could have multiplied.

YouTube video

You're really still showing off this video as if the presenter is an expert on the subject? *sigh* JIA, I think you need to realize this: diploma mills are not real institutions. This is still just another choice example of your poor selection of sources. Until you can provide something that is verified and proven by experts in the fields you try to cover, you're just not going to get far in any kind of intellectual discussion.

Not to mention, the kind of manipulation of information that you seem to do when quoting actual experts is also astounding and makes me question the things you say as well. People have a natural tendency to not trust liars. That's just the kind of hole you've dug yourself into.

Originally posted by Keith Talent
You neither understand religion or science. It's quite sad. You don't love people, mate. Don't kid yourself. You're spend your life on earth being a moron, hoping for a happier after life. You want to love people? Get off the internet and go volunteer at a hospital. Actually go about making a difference in the world instead of insulting peoples beliefs. None of what you say on this forum has changed anyone, nor will it.

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Originally posted by JesusIsAlive
...Question: why are atheists so bitter and mad at the world?

Because in the past they would have been burn at the stake. Atheists are mistreated by people like you. You show nothing but disrespect for them and their ideas. Also, there are not as many of them as bitter and as you imagine. You must realize that they are only mad at you and not at the rest of us. I get along with atheists just fine, and I can see that they are not bitter and mad people. It is you that creates the bitter and mad people around you that you see. If you change your heart, and really manifest love, then people around you will not be bitter and mad.

Originally posted by JesusIsAlive
Question: why are atheists so bitter and mad at the world?

Actually I think it's you specifically we're mad at.

Originally posted by King Kandy
Actually I think it's you specifically we're mad at.

😉 yep

Over 7,000 responses?😱 Jesus H Fukking Christ..... this thread is more out of control than Spiderman vs Wolverine

Holy sh*t you just used his name in vain...into the pit with you!

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Originally posted by Shakyamunison
Because in the past they would have been burn at the stake. Atheists are mistreated by people like you. You show nothing but disrespect for them and their ideas. Also, there are not as many of them as bitter and as you imagine. You must realize that they are only mad at you and not at the rest of us. I get along with atheists just fine, and I can see that they are not bitter and mad people. It is you that creates the bitter and mad people around you that you see. If you change your heart, and really manifest love, then people around you will not be bitter and mad.
I'm mad and bitter at you because you treat me with respect and kindness, only people that say I am evil and call me a liar and that I will burn in hell are happy people 😛

Originally posted by Da Pittman
I'm mad and bitter at you because you treat me with respect and kindness

B-But that isn't what JIA does at all!

Originally posted by Da Pittman
I'm mad and bitter at you because you treat me with respect and kindness, only people that say I am evil and call me a liar and that I will burn in hell are happy people 😛

I'm sorry. Can you ever forgive me. 😛

I just had to watch some more of this video again just for laughs, I like the argument about "shifting the burden of proof". So where does he prove that God exists or that the Earth is 6000 years old?

Let us look at his Moon theory, the moon moves about 3.8cm away from Earth about per year so in 6000 years ago that would mean the Moon was 22,800cm closer to Earth. 1 mile is 160934.4cm so that would mean that 6,000 years ago the Moon was only about 1/7 of a mile closer to the Earth than it is now not the 1/3 closer to cause the 9* greater gravitational pull as he was talking about. The Earth moves more than 30,000 miles than that in it normal rotation, the Moon would need to move at least 73,821 miles closer to get that pull he was talking about.

Now lets look at his population chart.

Here is says that it is possible that 8 people in the span of 4,000 years could make 6,000,000,000 people but doesn’t talk about that the first part of his chart shows that 2 people supposed to have made over 1,000,000,000 in just 2,000 years. What about the supposed people that lived thousands or years???

Now let us look at his “non overpopulation” problem, which yes you could cram 6 billion people in a small spot but how is this supposed to say that we are not over populated? His answer is simply move, well you have some issues with that. You can move out into the fields of Ohio but what are you going to do for a job, how to support your family, do about you trash, power your house and so on and so fort. Think about the resources that it would take to power all those houses built out in nowhere, what about the animal population if everyone started spreading out? Lets assume that everyone spread out, they would all need homes to live in. An average single family home has about 100x130 feet not counting roads or anything else you could fit 52 families per square mile, there is 57,268,900 square miles of land on the Earth so that means you could have 2,977,982,800 single family homes which less than half the Earth’s population. Even if you said that half the population of the Earth was kids and multi family homes that is still less than half. This also doesn’t take into account that you need places to work, roads to drive on, places to by food and even places to grow the food and so much more. This would be every inch of every square mile of ground on Earth taken up by homes so how is this not overpopulation?

Originally posted by Da Pittman
I just had to watch some more of this video again just for laughs, I like the argument about "shifting the burden of proof". So where does he prove that God exists or that the Earth is 6000 years old?

Let us look at his Moon theory, the moon moves about 3.8cm away from Earth about per year so in 6000 years ago that would mean the Moon was 22,800cm closer to Earth. 1 mile is 160934.4cm so that would mean that 6,000 years ago the Moon was only about 1/7 of a mile closer to the Earth than it is now not the 1/3 closer to cause the 9* greater gravitational pull as he was talking about. The Earth moves more than 30,000 miles than that in it normal rotation, the Moon would need to move at least 73,821 miles closer to get that pull he was talking about.

Now lets look at his population chart.

Here is says that it is possible that 8 people in the span of 4,000 years could make 6,000,000,000 people but doesn’t talk about that the first part of his chart shows that 2 people supposed to have made over 1,000,000,000 in just 2,000 years. What about the supposed people that lived thousands or years???

Now let us look at his “non overpopulation” problem, which yes you could cram 6 billion people in a small spot but how is this supposed to say that we are not over populated? His answer is simply move, well you have some issues with that. You can move out into the fields of Ohio but what are you going to do for a job, how to support your family, do about you trash, power your house and so on and so fort. Think about the resources that it would take to power all those houses built out in nowhere, what about the animal population if everyone started spreading out? Lets assume that everyone spread out, they would all need homes to live in. An average single family home has about 100x130 feet not counting roads or anything else you could fit 52 families per square mile, there is 57,268,900 square miles of land on the Earth so that means you could have 2,977,982,800 single family homes which less than half the Earth’s population. Even if you said that half the population of the Earth was kids and multi family homes that is still less than half. This also doesn’t take into account that you need places to work, roads to drive on, places to by food and even places to grow the food and so much more. This would be every inch of every square mile of ground on Earth taken up by homes so how is this not overpopulation?

They have an agenda. That agenda is to place their book (the bible) over everything. They twist logic and facts to fix their book. They pick and choose to fix their view. This is why they think science is doing the same. For example: a thief will think that everyone around them is out to steal from them. In other words, they are so blinded by their bias that they can't fathom the idea of a honest scientist that is sensually working to find the truths of nature. That person must be dishonest, or under control of satan. As long as they have this view, they will continue to be lost, hostel, and rebellious.

Originally posted by Da Pittman
Let us look at his Moon theory, the moon moves about 3.8cm away from Earth about per year so in 6000 years ago that would mean the Moon was 22,800cm closer to Earth. 1 mile is 160934.4cm so that would mean that 6,000 years ago the Moon was only about 1/7 of a mile closer to the Earth than it is now not the 1/3 closer to cause the 9* greater gravitational pull as he was talking about. The Earth moves more than 30,000 miles than that in it normal rotation, the Moon would need to move at least 73,821 miles closer to get that pull he was talking about.

it is also probably fair to assume that the gravitational strength of the earth would be greater, thus less movement of the moon, when the moon was closer to Earth

granted, cms ain't much, but if we are crunching hypothetical numbers...

Can't believe this thread is still alive...

Originally posted by inimalist
it is also probably fair to assume that the gravitational strength of the earth would be greater, thus less movement of the moon, when the moon was closer to Earth

granted, cms ain't much, but if we are crunching hypothetical numbers...

There are so many other things to factor in but I thought I would use the same type of math that the "Dr" used.

Originally posted by JesusIsAlive
So I have to do what you suggest or I don't love people? That is false.

Question: why are atheists so bitter and mad at the world?

I don't understand why you would say that, I know many people that do not belive in God and some are my friends and I would not say they are bitter or mad at the world. Why do you say this? God loves all of his children does he not?