Can you handle the Truth?

Started by AngryManatee432 pages
You totally ignored the part in the video that proves that the human race could have descended from Adam and Eve in 6,000 years of history.

You do realize that it's Kent Hovind in the video, right? Another moron who has been called out on his lies, and has been owned even on his own radio show, and doesn't even have a proper understanting of the theory of evolution. What a credible source! Not to mention isn't he in jail?

Question: which is harder to believe, that all life came from a rock (this violates the law of biogenesis) or that all life came from two people (which is abundantly possible)?

I would consider panspermia to be waaaaaaaaaay more plausible then life coming from two people. Too many factors just don't point towards your beliefs.

Originally posted by AngryManatee
You do realize that it's Kent Hovind in the video, right? Another moron who has been called out on his lies, and has been owned even on his own radio show, and doesn't even have a proper understanting of the theory of evolution. What a credible source! Not to mention isn't he in jail?

I would consider panspermia to be waaaaaaaaaay more plausible then life coming from two people. Too many factors just don't point towards your beliefs.

From evolution to exogenesis. Do I have you on the run Angrymantee?

Just kidding.

🙄

Originally posted by JesusIsAlive
From evolution to exogenesis. Do I have you on the run Angrymantee?

Just kidding.

🙄

You will just end up ignoring him like you do with everyone else. Not kidding. 😐

Originally posted by AngryManatee
You do realize that it's Kent Hovind in the video, right? Another moron who has been called out on his lies, and has been owned even on his own radio show, and doesn't even have a proper understanting of the theory of evolution. What a credible source! Not to mention isn't he in jail?

I would consider panspermia to be waaaaaaaaaay more plausible then life coming from two people. Too many factors just don't point towards your beliefs.

Men lie, women lie, but numbers don't.

It is possible for the human race to descend from two people. But it is impossible for life to descend through the process of evolution (remember the two billion zeros calculated by Dr. Carl Sagan?)

Originally posted by JesusIsAlive
Men lie, women lie, but numbers don't.

It is possible for the human race to descend from two people. But it is impossible for life to descend through the process of evolution (remember the two billion zeros calculated by Dr. Carl Sagan?)

😆 You have been lied too by man. Nature tells us about evolution, and nature does not lie.

Originally posted by JesusIsAlive
Men lie, women lie, but numbers don't.

It is possible for the human race to descend from two people. But it is impossible for life to descend through the process of evolution (remember the two billion zeros calculated by Dr. Carl Sagan?)

Numbers do not lie but the math can, you can make number say what ever you want and no all humans could not have come from just two people with out changing the way the human body works.

Originally posted by JesusIsAlive
Men lie, women lie, but numbers don't.

It is possible for the human race to descend from two people. But it is impossible for life to descend through the process of evolution (remember the two billion zeros calculated by Dr. Carl Sagan?)

I believe your statement about how numbers and lying has been answered already, so I don't really feel compelled to respond. You act as if Carl Sagan agreed with you.

Originally posted by JesusIsAlive
Men lie, women lie, but numbers don't.

It is possible for the human race to descend from two people. But it is impossible for life to descend through the process of evolution (remember the two billion zeros calculated by Dr. Carl Sagan?)

Do you really understand how little we do know about the universe and how it works? This would be the same as saying that we are a gain of sand on a beach that is trying to figure out the Earth when we can't even see the next grain of sand. We are trying to figure out how the universe works with only the information that we have in our little grain of sand. Things might work completely different in just our closest galaxy much less all the way across the universe, laws that we know to be true could very well change.

You little zero theory would only hold true if we knew all the factors on how life is created since we do not that is pretty much pointless, it would only go to show (if true) that the current popular theory on the creation of life is incorrect or incomplete which we all know that it is not complete. The factors that were calculated again also includes that which we know and as said is very little in the grand scheme of things.

Originally posted by King Kandy
I mean "evolve" in terms of "from how the universe started to where it is now" not biological evolution. Here, here's an analogy for the point i'm trying to make:

Let's say we have one of these things

Okay, now imagine instead of it being a bell curve, each option had equal probability. And instead of four options, there's 10^1,000,000,000 options. Now, the odds of a ball landing in a specific hole are ridiculously low. However, the odds that the balls will land in [B]A hole are 100%.

Now, each hole in this metaphor is a possible state of the universe. Lets say hole 1,664,443 is the one we're having this conversation in. Now, things could have turned out way differently. We could have been in hole 1,667,345. But each one is no more unlikely than any other one. The ball HAS to land in one of the holes, even if the odds are a billion zeros in the decimal. So if the ball landed in hole 1,664,443, don't think it was impossible. Even if it had landed in a different hole, the ball would still think it must have been design because of how unlikely the outcome was. [/B]

Then add in that there could be at least 60,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 chances of that happening.

Originally posted by JesusIsAlive

It is possible for the human race to descend from two people. But it is impossible for life to descend through the process of evolution (remember the two billion zeros calculated by Dr. Carl Sagan?)

Actually it's not. It results in what's known as "inbreeding depression" whereby recessive genes come to the fore and result in species becoming unfit and more prone to disease and ultimately extinction.

Examples in humans are the Ulas family from Turkey and the Vadoma tribe in Zimbabwe.

A generic example is the increase in likelyhood of Down's syndrome among interbreeding genetic relatives....In a study done in Kuwait, some 50% of the occurences of trisomy 21 (3 copies of chromosome 21 instead of 2 causes down's syndrome) were attributed to interbreeding at a level of second cousin (parents are cousins) or closer.

So no...A starting point of 2 people is not possible because we would be extinct because of genetic disorders brought on by weak recessive genes becoming more and more prevalent and so the genotype expresses a negative phenotype and thus the human becomes unfit to survive.

Originally posted by JesusIsAlive
Men lie, women lie, but numbers don't.

It is possible for the human race to descend from two people. But it is impossible for life to descend through the process of evolution (remember the two billion zeros calculated by Dr. Carl Sagan?)

You do know that Carl Sagan believed firmly in evolution right?

Originally posted by jaden101
Actually it's not. It results in what's known as "inbreeding depression" whereby recessive genes come to the fore and result in species becoming unfit and more prone to disease and ultimately extinction.

Examples in humans are the Ulas family from Turkey and the Vadoma tribe in Zimbabwe.

A generic example is the increase in likelyhood of Down's syndrome among interbreeding genetic relatives....In a study done in Kuwait, some 50% of the occurences of trisomy 21 (3 copies of chromosome 21 instead of 2 causes down's syndrome) were attributed to interbreeding at a level of second cousin (parents are cousins) or closer.

So no...A starting point of 2 people is not possible because we would be extinct because of genetic disorders brought on by weak recessive genes becoming more and more prevalent and so the genotype expresses a negative phenotype and thus the human becomes unfit to survive.

You do realize that when JIA brings in Magic/Supernatural that logic and rules are no longer needed? You ether simply believe or don't. 😄

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
You do realize that when JIA brings in Magic/Supernatural that logic and rules are no longer needed? You ether simply believe or don't. 😄

though insists the laws of thermodynamics disprove evolution...

"The Second Law of Thermodynamics says that systems must become more disordered over time. Living cells therefore could not have evolved from inanimate chemicals, and multicellular life could not have evolved from protozoa.

This argument derives from a misunderstanding of the Second Law. If it were valid, mineral crystals and snowflakes would also be impossible, because they, too, are complex structures that form spontaneously from disordered parts.

The Second Law actually states that the total entropy of a closed system (one that no energy or matter leaves or enters) cannot decrease. Entropy is a physical concept often casually described as disorder, but it differs significantly from the conversational use of the word.

More important, however, the Second Law permits parts of a system to decrease in entropy as long as other parts experience an offsetting increase. Thus, our planet as a whole can grow more complex because the sun pours heat and light onto it, and the greater entropy associated with the sun's nuclear fusion more than rebalances the scales. Simple organisms can fuel their rise toward complexity by consuming other forms of life and nonliving materials."

- By John Rennie of Scientific America

Edit: Look up 'Archaeopteryx'

Originally posted by inimalist
though insists the laws of thermodynamics disprove evolution...

A supernatural version of the second law of thermodynamic. Next he'll be explaining how Minovsky particles demonstrate the existence of God.

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
A supernatural version of the second law of thermodynamic. Next he'll be explaining how Minovsky particles demonstrate the existence of God.

😱 Don't give him ideas.

Originally posted by JesusIsAlive

God doesn't use magic that is the description of occult power. His power is just that His power.

You totally ignored the part in the video that proves that the human race could have descended from Adam and Eve in 6,000 years of history.

Question: which is harder to believe, that all life came from a rock (this violates the law of biogenesis) or that all life came from two people (which is abundantly possible)?

if it happens outside physical causality then its magic, whatever u wanna call it, its still magic.

there was no such part ive disected and destroyed each part of your reference. good luck next time

its impossible to beleive that all life came from two people if evolution CANT EXIST. its abundantly possible to beleive that all life came from inanimate matter if you accept evolution as viable. without the possibility of evolution BOTH are utterly impossible. now dont shy away and give an answer to THIS!

Originally posted by leonheartmm
oh my GOD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! lmao!!!!!!!!! you really have OUTDONE yourself this time jia!!!!

exhibit 1. "It is possible that God made genetic changes to humanity to better enable people to survive in different ecologies, such as Africans being better equipped genetically to survive the excessive heat in Africa. According to this view, God confused the languages, causing humanity to segregate linguistically, and then created genetic racial differences based on where each racial group would eventually settle, geographically"

so god miraculously changed the skin colours and lingistic preferences of people as the popultaion grew on earth?! you were better off just saying "MAGIC"! this is an unscientific argument with now evidence

exhibit 2. "After the flood, when the different languages came into existence, groups that spoke one language moved away with others of the same language. In doing so, the gene pool for a specific group shrunk dramatically as they no longer had the entire human population to mix with. Closer inbreeding took place, and in time certain features were emphasized in these different groups (all of which were present as a possibility in the gene code). As further inbreeding occurred through the generations, the gene pool got smaller and smaller, to the point that people of one language family all had the same or similar features, and it would be a rarity when a different feature arose."

lol, there could only have BEEN two genotypes since every1 came from adam and eve. ths authors of this crap know NOTHING about genetics. and the races did not come from FAMILIES

exhibit 3. "Another explanation is that Adam and Eve possessed the genes to produce black, brown, and white offspring (and everything else in between). This would be similar to how a mixed-race couple often has children that vary greatly in color from one another. Since God obviously desired humanity to be diverse in appearance, it makes sense that God would have given Adam and Eve the ability to produce children of different skin tones. Later, the only survivors of the flood were Noah and his wife, Noah’s three sons and their wives—eight people in all (Genesis 7:13). Perhaps Shem’s, Ham’s, or Japheth’s wives were of different races. It is possible that Noah’s wife was of a different race than Noah. Maybe all eight of them were of mixed race, which would mean that they possessed the genetics to produce children of different races."

perhaps they never took high school biology, but not only would adam and eve be PUREBRED, having a homozygous pair of chromosomes. even IF they had a hetrozygous pair, the possible combinations would be exactly FOUR! for every trait. NOW, HOW many different alleales exist of the same gene all around the world?!?!?! usually HUNDREDS!!!!

go on jia, tell me where these alleales came from. no bullshit, no beating around the bush, just a simple answer. WHERE did these come from?

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
😱 Don't give him ideas.

They do seem to have awfully convenient properties hmm

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
They do seem to have awfully convenient properties hmm

lol, irrefutable