Originally posted by Robtard
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Yeah, I think the Old Testament proves you wrong.
You are missing the point of the discussion. We are talking about killing someone who does not convert to Christianity. Jesus never took anyone's life for not believing in Him and He never instructed His followers to so.
Originally posted by JesusIsAlive
The Lord Jesus Christ never instructed nor commanded his followers (believers in Him) to kill unbelievers. Besides, the Lord Himself never killed anyone either.
A mobster boss never kills anyone ether. He just tells other people to kill.
Originally posted by JesusIsAlive
There's a lot of overzealous/ignorant (lacking knowledge) people out doing things in the name of God that He did not tell them to do.
But there can never be any true Christians alive. You can never be a true Christian until you die.
Originally posted by JesusIsAlive
You are missing the point of the discussion. We are talking about killing someone who does not convert to Christianity. Jesus never took anyone's life for not believing in Him and He never instructed His followers to so.
Ah, I see. You're probably right in that aspect. As if he had, it would have been edited out.
Originally posted by Shakyamunison
A mobster boss never kills anyone ether. He just tells other people to kill.But there can never be any true Christians alive. You can never be a true Christian until you die.
Jesus Christ is not a mobster boss.
Jesus Christ has never instructed any of His followers to kill unbelievers.
Jesus Christ has never killed unbelievers. But Mohammed has killed infidels (unbelievers) and the Quran (Koran) teaches Muslims to kill all infidels.
What do you base your statements on your opinion? My statements are all backed up with Scripture. Can you back anything you say with Scripture? It would help your statements have more validity.
http://www.carm.org/religious-movements/islam/comparison-between-jesus-and-muhammad
Originally posted by JesusIsAlive
Jesus Christ is not a mobster boss.Jesus Christ has never instructed any of His followers to kill unbelievers.
Jesus Christ has never killed unbelievers. But Mohammed has killed infidels (unbelievers) and the Quran (Koran) teaches Muslims to kill all infidels.
What do you base your statements on your opinion? My statements are all backed up with Scripture. Can you back anything you say with Scripture? It would help your statements have more validity.
Based on the idea, I got from you, that Jesus was in the beginning with god. Therefore, anything that god did in the OT, Jesus was part of because Jesus is and was god.
Originally posted by Shakyamunison
Based on the idea, I got from you, that Jesus was in the beginning with god. Therefore, anything that god did in the OT, Jesus was part of because Jesus is and was god.
So...now Scripture applies to this discussion?
You are missing the point of this discussion. We are talking about killing someone for not converting to Christianity. Jesus Christ never killed anyone for not--I reiterate--for not believing in Him. Jesus Christ never instructed his followers to kill anyone for not converting to Christianity.
Do you follow what I am saying?
Originally posted by JesusIsAlive
So...now Scripture applies to this discussion?You are missing the point of this discussion. We are talking about killing someone for not converting to Christianity. Jesus Christ never killed anyone for not--I reiterate--for not believing in Him. Jesus Christ never instructed his followers to kill anyone for not converting to Christianity.
Do you follow what I am saying?
That was someone else you were talking too. I was just talking about killing in general. Also, I never quoted any scripture. I only repeated your belief.
Originally posted by Grand-Moff-Gav
Not really, any decent Sociologist or Religious Scholar would point out that Hinduism is a continuously evolving system of beliefs. Within Hinduism there are thousands of religions. Most modern ones not really much like those that came at the very beginning...though what that means for Hinduism? Not much because the basic belief is the same "do good to others and good will be done to you." The core belief of every religion.
The same is true of Christianity.
In fact it would seem that the most successful religions are the one that are willing to change with the circumstances.
Originally posted by Shakyamunison
That was someone else you were talking too. I was just talking about killing in general. Also, I never quoted any scripture. I only repeated your belief.
But the discussion is not about killing in general. It changed to that but originally I was and still am referring to the lie that Jesus Christ Himself killed unbelievers and/or instructed His followers to do the same.
Originally posted by JesusIsAlive
But the discussion is not about killing in general. It changed to that but originally I was and still am referring to the lie that Jesus Christ Himself killed unbelievers and/or instructed His followers to do the same.
I don't care. Continue that part with the person you were talking too.
Originally posted by JesusIsAlive
That is incorrect. The Bible has never stated that an unbeliever be converted or killed. But the Quran (Koran) does teach this.
You are incorrect because I believe you to be incorrect, thus making you incorrect.
To the Fractal King: Human beings are capable of being creatures of rationality; look at our achievements in many areas. Of course we're not 100% rational all the time, but that would be missing the point.
BTW, did anyone bother to read the entirety of my previous post other than nitpicking at little tidbits of it?
Originally posted by JesusIsAlive
So...now Scripture applies to this discussion?You are missing the point of this discussion. We are talking about killing someone for not converting to Christianity. Jesus Christ never killed anyone for not--I reiterate--for not believing in Him. Jesus Christ never instructed his followers to kill anyone for not converting to Christianity.
Do you follow what I am saying?
Originally posted by Eon Blue
BTW, did anyone bother to read the entirety of my previous post other than nitpicking at little tidbits of it?
Yes, nothing will ever come of an rhetoric like that (unless you want to kill everyone who isn't an atheist) so I don't particularly care.
To promote an idea you need to look at previous successes, Christianity gets away with a lot today but didn't get that far by starting out with insane ranting about how everyone who is even slightly different is evil or insane.