Originally posted by JesusIsAlive
Homosexuality has always been a choice. There are people who have been set free from the perversion.Check out these links:
Homosexuality is not a choice. No one ever chooses to be gay. In fact, many gay people wish they weren't gay. I used to be one of these, until I accepted who I was, and just enjoyed it.
My life is much better now 🙂
Why are you seriously provoked by me?
I am not claiming anything to be right or wrong God does through His Word. He calls homosexuality an abomination--not me.
Who am I to judge? You and I both judge things everyday. I judge situations so that I can make intelligent, informed decisions. However, in this case I am judging by the Word of God--not my own personal convictions per se. Besides, true believers are supposed to judge things.
Regards, Yvonne
Originally posted by yvonekarate
Because you offend me. That's not a bad thing however, I respect other people's opinion, I just don't like your behaviour. As a Christian, I've learned to love and to be open. I just can't see why that's so hard for you.You mean it says so in the Bible? Well, you might be right, you might be wrong, but as I see it, the Bible is written by other men, not God himself. They might have written his words, but as I see it, the Bible is just a guidance, not something definate. And I can't seriously understand how anyone can follow a book literally, a book which was written several hundred years ago. We move with the times, and as I see it, the Bible was written for its time. That doesn't mean I don't follow the Bible on general terms, but I choose not to see things literally.
So what you're initiating is that I'm not a true believer, since I don't want to judge things the way you do? No, I won't take apon the task of judging others, which can only be done by God him/herself. You're right we do judge things everyday based on our own comprehension. We decide whether we should wear a blue or red jacket, and then we often come to a conclution. We all have different prefrences, I like blue and someone else might like red. Doesn't mean either of us is wrong, but I did come to a conclution of what is right for me. As I see it, passing judgement on others only leads to sorrow, anger, frustration and sometimes war.
Regards, Yvonne
I wish there was more Christians like you. 👆
Who have I condemned? Yvonekarate, I did not write the Bible--I simply agree with it and its standard of righteousness. God by His Word is the one doing the condemning.
Can you see the difference between me saying that homosexuality is an abomination and God saying it in His Word?
He is the one Who said it so why are you finding fault with me? If you were a born-again believer in Jesus Christ you should know what God's Word states with regard to homosexuality (especially in this age that we live in).
Regards, Yvonne
Contradict His creations? (I have no idea what this means.) You mean when I call homosexuality an abomination? But I am simply saying what the Bible states. How am I wrong for doing this? Again, I do have compassion on homosexuals and I want to see them happy and fulfilled, but they are going to have to find fulfillment God's way. But the homosexual lifestyle is not God's way or order.
I don't look for any of a woman’s God-given, intrinsic qualities in a man, and I make no apologies. I am reminded of the beauty and essence of a woman when I look at an Amaryllis flower, or rose, tulip, and Asiatic Lily. None of those dainty, beautiful flowers evoke thoughts of a man to me. I think of a woman because women and men are intrinsically different by design. No man should carry himself like a woman, talk like a woman, or dress like a woman—that is a perversion of God’s order.
There is nothing natural about two men relating to one another as a man relates to a woman it is an abomination and perversion. Men should be men, woman should be women, for this is God's order. God made men and women different because each one complements the other. Men have inherent qualities that women do not have and will never possess. But women (thank God for women you all are so special) the way that you all think, your tenderness, your delicateness, your femininity, your daintiness, your wisdom and intelligence, and your beauty are without peer...unmatched. Thank God for you all.
Regards, Yvonne
How in the world can you even think of God as being "greater force?" I don't know any true believers that refer to God--their Heavenly Father--as being a force of any kind. God is a Person--He is divine, but a Person nonetheless. I am able to judge based on your own words that you are not born again. I can just tell. You lack certain earmarks, one of which is a love for the Word of God (even if you do not understand it all). No true believer would have any problem understanding that homosexuality is contrary to God's will. My heart goes out to homosexuals but I do not approve of their lifestyle because God does not approve of their lifestyle. God loves them as do I and He wants to deliver them from their bondage.
Furthermore, yvonekarate why do you believe that God created homosexuals? God created a man and a woman--not homosexuals. If God wanted homosexuals then he would have made two men and two women so that they could become involved in same-sex relationships—but He didn’t. God made one man and one woman (for the man). It is not God for man to be alone so God made a woman to complement him not another man. This is God’s order.
Regards, Yvonne
Unwed mothers, sex outside of marriage to multiple partners, aborted babies 🙁 , A.I.D.S., other sexually transmitted diseases, alcoholics, drunk drivers, many tragic drunk driving accidents that have left people in wheel chairs, paralyzed for life, or dead, men and women having sex with children (i.e. pedophiles), rapists, racism, substance abusers and drug addicts, poverty, theft, robbery, stealing, larceny, rebellious, disrespectful children, pornographic smut and filth, and the list goes on.
For what? Because no one wants to call a spade a spade. No one wants to call sin, sin.
Based on these verses discipline is an act of love. If you love your children then you should discipline them when they disobey you. Discipline can take a number of forms. You don’t have to abuse your children to discipline them, use wisdom.
I'm sorry for all my posts. I wouldn't have done it, were it not for the word limit in the posts.
Regards, Yvonne
I think the most absurd part is that he's basing his entire argument on teh notion that the planet is 6000 years old and we are all related to each other because we're all descended from the same two people.
Apparently, this:
Unwed mothers, sex outside of marriage to multiple partners, aborted babies , A.I.D.S., other sexually transmitted diseases, alcoholics, drunk drivers, many tragic drunk driving accidents that have left people in wheel chairs, paralyzed for life, or dead, men and women having sex with children (i.e. pedophiles), rapists, racism, substance abusers and drug addicts, poverty, theft, robbery, stealing, larceny, rebellious, disrespectful children, pornographic smut and filth, and the list goes on.
is all the result of inbreeding.
Originally posted by AngryManatee
"The composition of the gases of the early atmosphere is not known for certain, but perhaps included water (in the form of steam), carbon dioxide, ... ammonia and methane. There was probably no free oxygen. From these gases, at sufficiently high temperature, simple organic molecules could have been formed with the energy available from short-wave (ultraviolet) radiation. ... Some very impressive experiments by Miller and others have shown that such a combination can take place. .... There is therefore no longer any doubt that the first stage of the formation of life can occur under the influence of entirely 'natural' conditions such as may well have existed early in the earth's history." Edited by J. Z. Young and Tom Margerison, The Explosion of Science: From Molecule to Man (Crown Publishers: New York: 1969), p. 86
There is no scientific proof that Earth ever had a non-oxygen atmosphere such as evolutionists require. Earth’s oldest rocks contain evidence of being formed in an oxygen atmosphere.
In general the half-lives of these polymers in contact with water are on the order of days and months—time spans which are surely geologically insignificant.
Originally posted by Boris
HAHAH I love the sites you try to link people to...Answer in Genesis? Genesis is bullshit! So that site is totally useless!
Originally posted by yvonekarate
Words.
(How terribly intolerant of me.)
Originally posted by yvonekarate
The Bible, as I see it, was written by other men, not God himself.Not really no, because only God knows what is right, if he/she exists.
And why are you finding fault with me. After all; I'm a Christian. I believe God is good. I believe God is forgiving. That's what I know.
Regards, Yvonne
You are not a Christian based on the things that you have said. What makes you think that you are a Christian?
Originally posted by yvonekarate
Not as you see it, no. But as I see it; yes. Because I believe God created us. As I see it he created us all differently. I believe homosexuals are a part of God's creation.So what you're saying is that women and men should know their place? Well, as a feminist, I can't say that I agree with you. So what you really mean, is that flowers are for women and cars are for men, or what? That a man can't be tender, loving and caring, because that's a woman's prerogative? As I see it, we're equal in the eyes of God, which means that he loves us all.
Regards, Yvonne
I am saying that a man should comport himself like a man and a woman should comport herself like a woman. I said nothing about a man or woman knowing their place.
Originally posted by yvonekarate
You don't see me as a Christian, I do. That's only what counts for me. I respect your opinion, because in the end, you're not the one who will judge me, but God. Maybe I'm wrong. Maybe I'm right. I just know that there are something greater than me out there. And I won't let you offend me any further. To me religion is private. It's what I believe that matters.Why? Because created everything. And you think that's God's order. Fine. I just don't agree with you. I see God as loving, caring and forgiving. He intended us to be who we are, which means that homosexuals are equal to us in the eyes of God. That how I see it. I know you don't see it that way. Well, that's you then.
Regards, Yvonne
God did not create everything. For example, God did not create sin or evil. Homosexuals will not inherit the Kingdom of God.
Originally posted by Schecter
from where im standing you are clearly not a real christian. im sure you think you are, and play the part in your own way.jesus gave me a message to pass on to you: "fail (my son)"
Religion is private, I see it. If you try to scare me, it doesn't really work. I see you guys as fanatics. I'm not sure what's worse.
Regards, Yvonne
Originally posted by yvonekarate
God gave us free will. That doesn't mean I support killers or rapists. I just don't see homosexuality as a sin.If it's true, then God will pass judgement on those who have sinned.
Of course. I could never harm or abuse children.
I'm sorry for all my posts. I wouldn't have done it, were it not for the word limit in the posts.
Regards, Yvonne
God gave us a free will but their are consequences for using it contrary to God's will. It doesn't matter what you see or don't see: homosexuality is a sin.