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Originally posted by inimalistClassic scene.
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This as well
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Originally posted by JesusIsAlive
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Christian music doesn't have to be so....obvious.
Try this
Originally posted by JesusIsAlive
I take literal what is to be taken literal unless it is obvious that it should be understood metaphorically.Much of the book of Revelation is symbolic imagery with a spiritual import.
You take literal what should be taken literally unless it is obvious it should be understood metaphorically... So... how do you know if something is clearly supposed to be a metaphore?
Originally posted by Mandrag Ganon
You take literal what should be taken literally unless it is obvious it should be understood metaphorically... So... how do you know if something is clearly supposed to be a metaphore?
Context and vocabulary that is presented are valuable clues. For example, the book of Revelation 12:1 talks about a woman clothed with the sun, with the moon under her feet, and on her head a garland of twelve stars.
This is obviously symbolic.
The reason is because human beings cannot be clothed with the sun or have the moon under their feet or wear a garland of stars on their head.
It just isn't humanly possible. You just have to really examine the context to determine whether something is symbolic or literal.
However, John 3:16 should be taken literally. There is no reason to believe that it is metaphoric.
If someone told you that he/she was so hungry that he/she could eat a whole cow in one sitting, would you take that literally or metaphorically?
Now if the same person stated that he/she is so hungry that he/she could heat a happy meal from McDonald's, would you think they meant metaphorically or literally?
I guess context, vocabulary, and plain old common sense helps to understand whether something is symbolic or literal--for me at least.
Context and vocabulary that is presented are valuable clues. For example, the book of Revelation 12:1 talks about a woman clothed with the sun, with the moon under her feet, and on her head a garland of twelve stars.This is obviously symbolic.
The reason is because human beings cannot be clothed with the sun or have the moon under their feet or wear a garland of stars on their head.
It just isn't humanly possible. You just have to really examine the context to determine whether something is symbolic or literal.[/B]
Ah, yes, I know what you speak of.
1 A great and wondrous sign appeared in heaven: a woman clothed with the sun, with the moon under her feet and a crown of twelve stars on her head.
2 She was pregnant and cried out in pain as she was about to give birth.
3 Then another sign appeared in heaven: an enormous red dragon with seven heads and ten horns and seven crowns on his heads.
4 His tail swept a third of the stars out of the sky and flung them to the earth. The dragon stood in front of the woman who was about to give birth, so that he might devour her child the moment it was born.
5 She gave birth to a son, a male child, who will rule all the nations with an iron scepter. And her child was snatched up to God and to his throne. 6 The woman fled into the desert to a place prepared for her by God, where she might be taken care of for 1,260 days.
Who is to say that God could not cause these images to appear so that all of mankind can see them? Who is to say that the power of God is not behind this, and it is and actual event that will happen in the future? To you it is clearly symbolic, but I have pointed out two ways where it may be litteral.
Originally posted by Mandrag Ganon
Ah, yes, I know what you speak of.1 A great and wondrous sign appeared in heaven: a woman clothed with the sun, with the moon under her feet and a crown of twelve stars on her head.
2 She was pregnant and cried out in pain as she was about to give birth.
3 Then another sign appeared in heaven: an enormous red dragon with seven heads and ten horns and seven crowns on his heads.
4 His tail swept a third of the stars out of the sky and flung them to the earth. The dragon stood in front of the woman who was about to give birth, so that he might devour her child the moment it was born.
5 She gave birth to a son, a male child, who will rule all the nations with an iron scepter. And her child was snatched up to God and to his throne. 6 The woman fled into the desert to a place prepared for her by God, where she might be taken care of for 1,260 days.Who is to say that God could not cause these images to appear so that all of mankind can see them? Who is to say that the power of God is not behind this, and it is and actual event that will happen in the future? To you it is clearly symbolic, but I have pointed out two ways where it may be litteral.
The events that are described in the book of Revelation chapter 12 are literal. In other words, they will take place at some point in the near future.
However, the imagery used to illustrate those events are symbolic. The imagery paints picture as it were of literal events that will occur.
You know what they say, "a picture is worth a thousand words."
Originally posted by King Kandy
Well with god in the picture, it IS possible for a woman to have a dress of sun, garland of stars etc.
But that is not the point of the symbolism. God uses symbolism to illustrate some event or important message that He intends to communicate.
The Bible is replete with metaphors for example that give us insight into God's character.
Read the book of Daniel chapter 2 it is a very good example of how God uses symbolism to convey actual events that have already or will occur some time in the future.
Originally posted by JesusIsAlive
The events that are described in the book of Revelation chapter 12 are literal. In other words, they will take place at some point in the near future.However, the imagery used to illustrate those events are symbolic. The imagery paints picture as it were of literal events that will occur.
You know what they say, "a picture is worth a thousand words."
Originally posted by King Kandy
But how can you logically tell the difference?
He will not tell you how he knows. It is hidden information that you cannot see. Even if you were looking right at it, you would not see it. The god of the bible has blinded you to this knowledge. If you are not one of the saints, then you can never understand it.
Originally posted by JesusIsAlive
But that is not the point of the symbolism. God uses symbolism to illustrate some event or important message that He intends to communicate.The Bible is replete with metaphors for example that give us insight into God's character.
Read the book of Daniel chapter 2 it is a very good example of how God uses symbolism to convey actual events that have already or will occur some time in the future.
The thing I am trying to get at here is how do you KNOW that this is symbolism. How do you know that this is not an event that will happen exactly as it is described in the bible, and thus would not be symbolism.