Can you handle the Truth?

Originally posted by Super Marie 64
[b]I do not know why you continue stressing that with me. We have already settled it. My question is answered. Hitler might be in Heaven. Thank you for helping me understand benevolent God better. [/B]

According to that horrible, horrible, horrible film 'Little Nicky', Hitler is in hell and spends his time having pineapples shoved up his ass.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YssMT0qXYOw

I guess it comes down to which piece of fiction you want to believe in, the Bible or Little Nicky.

only if my sister tells me

Originally posted by JesusIsAlive
The gospel i.e. "good news" is that God loves everyone and extends His forgiveness for sin to all THROUGH the shed Blood of His Son Jesus Christ!

Awesome...1st rule of cultism: The leader loves you.

He beats you.
Limits your thinking/questioning ability.
He will destroy you and ensure that you burn in hell.

"But he does love you though..no one else does. Not like leader does...." Sounds like the psychology used by aggressive husbands on a battered wife to sustain the relationship.

All hail leade- erm...'God'.

Still nice that reads like a permission slip to whatever we wanna do free from impunity.

Gods love counts for absolutely fu** all, in practical terms.

You're yet to prove that there is an afterlife, let alone that there is a petitionable, active, omni-present being, caring about what you say and do.. so all these lie filled statements like "God (who is yet to prove his existance, in spite of constant inquiry going back to the darkages) loves (Human emotion, that at best can be very fickle in itself) you" don't help clarify events we see happening every day in the modern world all the way back to when Earth formed from the debris in our solar system..

most of the time, I can

Originally posted by Super Marie 64
[b]Hitler preached Christianity, believed genuinely, while working his magic. When he asked Jesus to let him in, you think Jesus opened the door and showed him the food court? [/B]

Hitler would have had to repent of his sins and genuinely feel sorry about it. He wouldn't get in just by going through the motions. I'm pretty sure he didn't, so no. I'd say we won't be seeing him in heaven.

Originally posted by JesusIsAlive
Why do people get offended when you tell them the truth as it pertains to the Bible?

We get offended for the same reason that people would get offended if the constantly referred to Harry Potter in their day to day life.

It's a story. There is no proof of witches and wizards. Just like their is no proof of God.

Originally posted by Utsukushii
We get offended for the same reason that people would get offended if the constantly referred to Harry Potter in their day to day life.

It's a story. There is no proof of witches and wizards. Just like their is no proof of God.

Incorrect. There is no 100% proof, but there are plenty of logical reasons to believe in one.

Originally posted by TacDavey
Incorrect. There is no 100% proof, but there are plenty of logical reasons to believe in one.

Enlighten me.

Originally posted by Utsukushii
Enlighten me.

I'm talking about it right now on the "death" thread. There is also some talk on the "atheism" thread. It would probably be better to keep the discussion there, so we don't have three threads all talking about the same thing.

Originally posted by JesusIsAlive
For example, Goddess Kali (the artist formerly known as Lord Urizen) asked me what God thought of his love for his boyfriend. Well, the Bible does not "specifically" reveal what God thinks of your love for your boyfriend (unless it is purely non-sexual and non-romantic i.e. like the love you have for a close friend or a pet). But I believe that He deems it ungodly, sinful, and an abomination. I apologize if my direct, straightforward manner is offensive to you, I sincerely do not intend to hurt your feelings. But the truth is the truth. Can you handle it?

Those are your truths sir/ma'am, not mine. You can choose to believe that you are worthless without a spiritual aid, but I do just fine with my confidence in my own worth and the friendhip and love of those I can prove exist that are close to me. that is my truth and I can accept it.

Originally posted by TacDavey
Incorrect. There is no 100% proof, but there are plenty of logical reasons to believe in one.

There are also plenty of logical reasons not to. If we can't prove if God exists either way, how can we accept "the Trutth", so to speak. I mean besides faith.

Originally posted by socool8520
There are also plenty of logical reasons not to.

Can you provide some?

Originally posted by socool8520
If we can't prove if God exists either way, how can we accept "the Trutth", so to speak. I mean besides faith.

Well, first, you don't have to be able to prove something exists to know/believe it exists.

Second, I think we CAN logically prove God exists. Not 100%, no. Nothing can be proven 100% except that truth exists and you exist. But I think we can prove it beyond reasonable doubt.

^you think wrongly then.

Originally posted by JesusIsAlive
Well, the Bible states that we are saved by GRACE (i.e. undeserved, unmerited, unearned favor) NOT BY WORKS.

Salvation is a GIFT. It is not something that you can WORK for. It must simply be received--by faith of course.

Side note: check out Colton Burpo's real life account of his visit to Heaven when he was just three years old.

YouTube video

the bible is LYING and you are too brainwashed or stupid to see it.

Originally posted by leonheartmm
^you think wrongly then.

Originally posted by leonheartmm
the bible is LYING and you are too brainwashed or stupid to see it.

Leonheart, no one is going to want to debate with you if your posts are nothing more than insults with no substance.

I discuss with him often. Seems like he usually has more substance than his opponents.

Originally posted by TacDavey
Can you provide some?

Well, first, you don't have to be able to prove something exists to know/believe it exists.

Second, I think we CAN logically prove God exists. Not 100%, no. Nothing can be proven 100% except that truth exists and you exist. But I think we can prove it beyond reasonable doubt.

Ok, How can you prove he exists beyond a reasonable doubt.

For us, he has never made him self known, outside of some book that people wrote. You can't know him in any of the five senses, I've never spiritually felt his prescence. It seems as though he is no more real than any comic book character we read about.

Other than that, all you have is faith, and faith in itself seems illogical. I mean believing in something that you have no way of knowing is there, or with any scientific backing.

Originally posted by King Kandy
I discuss with him often. Seems like he usually has more substance than his opponents.

More insults too, which is really the point.

Originally posted by TacDavey
Leonheart, no one is going to want to debate with you if your posts are nothing more than insults with no substance.

yes, ill keep that in mind when someone is DEBATING with me. ofcourse, you and JIA, are not debaters, and have little interest in debating{this is abundantly clear}. so why am i held to the standards that debaters should be held to?

otherwise, i have learnt a thing or two about faux debaters and word twisters and i can tell fairly quickly whether people are genuinly interested in an exchange of ideas or just a bating contest to placate their ego or project their petty sadistic desire into jerking around the opposition and wasting their time{one of the main reasons why i spend more time studying/living n stuff rather than debating/discussing online now. the phenomenon and this place have lost their charm}. in the later case, i feel no obligation to satisfy their cravings.

To Tacdavey's credit, JIA is a totally different class of arguer.