Originally posted by Remulous
I think because he has proven he has more raw strength (taking on a squad of Jacks) and durability (thrown from a cliff as a child).Who has Hayabusa lost too in DOA?
Hayate. The very first person Kazuya has to fight. This is an extremely difficult gauntlet for Kazuya honestly.
I'm off to bed for the night though. Later everyone.
Originally posted by Darkstorm Zero-Reason why you should is he's as valid as all your noncanonical characters my friend, for the twentieth time. Considering this is obviously H2H Hayabusa, Kazuya will win in pretty much any circumstance.
Why should I? Ryu'snot as strong as the D.I. Plus he's lost a few fights in DOABesides,youjust said Kaz defeats him,and he is definitely no planet splitter.
Thisisall the same trumped up crap I've seen before, none of this is relevant to my arguments...
-That all talks about the DD's power, and the D.I. is empowered by the DD.
Originally posted by Xenogears
-Reason why you should is he's as valid as all your noncanonical characters my friend, for the twentieth time. Considering this is obviously H2H Hayabusa, Kazuya will win in pretty much any circumstance.
Translation = Your looking to copout an excuse to save your argument by claiming a non-canon character has less validity in these forums as anon-existant one.
No dice Cloud, Non Canon characters are allowed to be argued, but non existant ones cannot.
Originally posted by Xenogears
-That all talks about the DD's power, and the D.I. is empowered by the DD.
It makes no difference at all, D.I Ryu is out.
Originally posted by Darkstorm Zero-On the contrary, Ryu is playable with the DDB. D.I. or not, it will be the same because the power of the D.I. is still being used.
Translation = Your looking to copout an excuse to save your argument by claiming a non-canon character has less validity in these forums as anon-existant one.No dice Cloud, Non Canon characters are allowed to be argued, but non existant ones cannot.
It makes no difference at all, D.I Ryu is out.
-Fine with me. Rugal gets pwned by Ryu with the DDB or TDS.
Originally posted by Xenogears
-On the contrary, Ryu is playable with the DDB. D.I. or not, it will be the same because the power of the D.I. is still being used.
Ahuh... too bad he'snever killed anyone with the DDB, and he's nowhere near planet slicing levels...
Originally posted by Xenogears
-Fine with me. Rugal gets pwned by Ryu with the DDB or TDS.
Nope, the TDS's power only works on the DDB, and the DDB isuseless on it's own. (Thanks Asthar)
Face it, the weapons are plot devices Cloud, theonly leverage you had was the D.I transformation, which Ryu's never done.
Originally posted by Darkstorm Zero-What sucks for you is that he has ingame, as noncanonical Rugal is only playable in a game and not part of a story.
Ahuh... too bad he'snever killed anyone with the DDB, and he's nowhere near planet slicing levels...Nope, the TDS's power only works on the DDB, and the DDB isuseless on it's own. (Thanks Asthar)
Face it, the weapons are plot devices Cloud, theonly leverage you had was the D.I transformation, which Ryu's never done.
-Considering it has worked against everything else, and is stated to have immense power the likes of which have never been seen in the game.
Originally posted by Xenogears
-What sucks for you is that he has ingame, as noncanonical Rugal is only playable in a game and not part of a story.
He is canon to his own game,Ryu'snever used the DDB in his story, so no, your wrong again.
Originally posted by Xenogears
-Considering it has worked against everything else, and is stated to have immense power the likes of which have never been seen in the game.
So what your now saying is that everything you've argued for the TDS has been pure speculation? that has destroyed your ENTIRE ARGUMENT right there... speculation is not evidence, and nobody knows what the properties of the TDS are... we have a winner here ladies and gentlemen, Xeno has just committed Hara Kiri to his own arguments and is therefore disqualified!
Originally posted by Darkstorm ZeroA character can't be canonical to a noncanonical game einstein. Stop bitching about Ryu using the blade and arguing for G. Rugal at the same time.
He is canon to his own game,Ryu'snever used the DDB in his story, so no, your wrong again.
Originally posted by Darkstorm ZeroThat was before the TDS was introduced in the game you tard. The one who stated that said it before the blade achieved its true power, which happened during chapter 17 in the game. Yet another fact you did not know. The TDS's power surpasses that of Vigoor's and the D.I.'s, and I'm not bothering to mention to you once again what these beings are capable of since you'll just deny it like you typically do.
So what your now saying is that everything you've argued for the TDS has been pure speculation? that has destroyed your ENTIRE ARGUMENT right there... speculation is not evidence, and nobody knows what the properties of the TDS are... we have a winner here ladies and gentlemen, Xeno has just committed Hara Kiri to his own arguments and is therefore disqualified!
Originally posted by StyleTimeHow has the others proven that they are more durable then Kaz?
Can we get back to the thread topic please? I would really enjoy hearing the argument for Kazuya. I don't see him taking a majority from any of the ninja honestly when his only advantage is strength.
Originally posted by Remulous
How has the others proven that they are more durable then Kaz?
From what I've seen, nothing they have been hit by rivals falling from a cliff as a small child.
They are faster, I give them that, but tell me, what else do they have that will make a difference?
Kasumi fell from a skyscraper while simultaneously engaging Alpha-152 in aerial combat. After hitting the ground, Kasumi was completely unscathed and poised to continue the fight.
Ayane has also fell from a skyscraper unnharmed. She took a mountain-side leveling blast immediately after fighting Hayate and Kasumi and still proceeded to win against a stronger foe.
Hayabusa traverses cities by falling from heights including skyscrapers. He has also fallen from cloud level and only been a little disoriented afterwards. Hayabusa weathered blows from and defeated Jann Lee, who at the time could literally explode a thick tree by punching it.
Hayate, as you can probably guess by now, has also fallen from a skyscraper unharmed.
In all honesty, Kazuya's durability is average among the high tiers of DOA like Zack and Hitomi. That's not a bad thing, as they are among the strongest in DOA, but Hitomi lost to a ninja just like Kazuya will. Zack, well he's in a whole other league for durability honestly. I wish they'd let him have a shot at one of the ninja.
Kazuya is quite tough, but I need to remind you of the ninpo and teleportation abilities at the disposal of every ninja on that list. Kazuya is fighting an uphill battle here.