Largest School Shooting in American History

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There is no age restriction in some states, with regard to private sales, iirc.

Originally posted by xmarksthespot
There is no age restriction in some states, with regard to private sales, iirc.

... No age restriction? Where is this?

Originally posted by xmarksthespot
There is no age restriction in some states, with regard to private sales, iirc.

So a five year old could buy a gun? I doubt that

Originally posted by Lord Melkor
Well, 16 or seventeen years old is hardly a kid....

How old do you have to be to obtain the gun in some States?

16 and 17 years of age is a kid.

EDIT: I just saw a video of Cho where you can tell he was terribly troubled. He mentions the Columbine Killers and he refers to Jesus Christ.

Troubling. When he made the video I do not know, how they got the tape I do not know. I think they said he left it for them or something. By what he said, I'm guessing he planned all along to kill himself.

AND YES HE DID KILL HIMSELF.

anata wa wakarimasu ka.....

Originally posted by FeceMan
More like "Greatest school shooting in American history."

it was the largest shooting in terms of deaths in American history period.

Originally posted by InnerRise
16 and 17 years of age is a kid.

EDIT: I just saw a video of Cho where you can tell he was terribly troubled. He mentions the Columbine Killers and he refers to Jesus Christ.

Troubling. When he made the video I do not know, how they got the tape I do not know. I think they said he left it for them or something. By what he said, I'm guessing he planned all along to kill himself.

AND YES HE DID KILL HIMSELF.

anata wa wakarimasu ka.....

Where did you see that? Was it on the net. I heard from a friend today that allegedly stories have been found on his computer which basically match his crime. Troubling stuff.

Originally posted by chithappens
... No age restriction? Where is this?
Originally posted by chillmeistergen
So a five year old could buy a gun? I doubt that
Erratum: My statement was probably too glib.

"• Seven states have no legal minimum age for
a child buying rifles or shotguns from a private
seller. 18 states have no minimum age for possession
of these guns, and 13 states have a
minimum age between 12 and 16.
• Six states have no legal minimum age for
a child to possess handguns. Five states
set the minimum age between 14 and 16.
(Federal law stipulates a minimum age
of 18 to possess handguns, but the survey
found that state policy prevails in enforcement.)"

http://www.soros.org/initiatives/justice/articles_publications/publications/gun_report_20000401/GunReport.pdf

The report is from 2000 however and thus may be outdated.

Originally posted by chillmeistergen
Where did you see that? Was it on the net. I heard from a friend today that allegedly stories have been found on his computer which basically match his crime. Troubling stuff.
I saw it on MSNBC just a while ago.

They had a little booklet of his too that he made with almost artisitc photographs of hollow bullets. Pictures of him. Bunches of pages of writing. Knives, guns and the such.

anata wa wakarimasu ka.....

You can read the article and watch the Video Manifesto here:

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/18169776/

Be aware that there are some very disturbing images of the killer.

well that settles it.

the blame will land on none other than..........*drumroll* grand theft auto.

watch. its going to happen, and the game will be delayed. DAMNIT!!!

Originally posted by WrathfulDwarf
You can read the article and watch the Video Manifesto here:

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/18169776/

Be aware that there are some very disturbing images of the killer.


jeez, what a freak. I thought he was a skitzo when I first heard the news but I can't believe he was sold those guns after having a known medical disorder, he shouldn't have even been walking the streets.

Never underestimate mans ability to conjure innovative ways to kill each other. If it wasn't firearms it would have been something else... Improvised bomb, poison, unleashing rabid monkeys, whatever.
Look at the person responsible, his upbringing, don't displace blame. It's not a weapons or a video games fault that this happened.

For the heck of it, here's some firearm stats:
Some U.S. statistics
The National Center for Policy Analysis, a conservative think tank, reported the following statistics:[7]

New Jersey adopted what sponsors described as "the most stringent gun law" in the nation in 1966; two years later, the murder rate was up 46 percent and the reported robbery rate had nearly doubled.
In 1968, Hawaii imposed a series of increasingly harsh measures and its murder rate, then a low 2.4 per 100,000 per year, tripled to 7.2 by 1977.
In 1976, Washington, D.C., enacted one of the most restrictive gun control laws in the nation. Since then, the city's murder rate has risen 134 percent while the national murder rate has dropped 2 %.
Over 50% of American households own guns, despite government statistics showing the number is approximately 35%, because guns not listed on any government roll were not counted during the gathering of data. [9]
Evanston, Ill., a Chicago suburb of 75,000 residents, became the largest town to ban handgun ownership in September 1982 but experienced no decline in violent crime.
Among the 15 states with the highest homicide rates, 10 have restrictive or very restrictive gun laws.
20 percent of U.S. homicides occur in four cities with just 6 percent of the population - New York, Chicago, Detroit and Washington, D.C. - and each has a virtual prohibition on private handguns.[8]
UK banned private ownership of all handguns in 1997. Since 1998 the number of people injured by firearms in England and Wales has more than doubled, despite massive increase in number of police personnel.[9]
Violent crime accelerated in Jamaica after handguns were banned.
On the other hand, the FBI's annual Uniform Crime Report ranking of cities over 40,000 in population by violent crime rates (per 100,000 population) finds that the ten cities with the highest violent crime rates for 2003 include three cities in the very strict state of New Jersey, one in the fairly restrictive state of Massachusettes, where as the rest have recently adopted laws that allow for the carrying of a handgun with a permit.:[10]

Originally posted by Schecter
well that settles it.

the blame will land on none other than..........*drumroll* grand theft auto.

watch. its going to happen, and the game will be delayed. DAMNIT!!!


No, that's incredibly unlikely. They blamed the kids at the colombine(sp?) incident for video games because they were just normal(well kinda) kids. This guy actually had bad mental problems identified as a danger to himself and those around him.

They already try to put the blame on Counter Strike.

http://www.joystiq.com/2007/04/18/wapo-writer-talks-vt-shooter-counter-strike-connection-removal/

Originally posted by WrathfulDwarf
They already try to put the blame on Counter Strike.

http://www.joystiq.com/2007/04/18/wapo-writer-talks-vt-shooter-counter-strike-connection-removal/


They wont be able to blame it on much else now that his mental disorder has been discovered. The whole situation itself is stupid though, that many people shouldn't have died, it could've easily been possible to avoid. The cops did their incredible strategic plan codenamed: "Wait for SWAT". Which is the stupidest thing ever, all of them had probably 9mm or better and would've taken him out quick even if there was a chance of civilian loss it wouldn't have been as bad. I personally think they should give everyone a gun. Okay well everyone who can use a gun so no little tiny kids. Like middle school and up. If those students were armed it would've been a simple matter of pulling the trigger. Lets not forget the college should've been dismissed after the murders were committed.

Originally posted by Menetnashté
No, that's incredibly unlikely. They blamed the kids at the colombine(sp?) incident for video games because they were just normal(well kinda) kids. This guy actually had bad mental problems identified as a danger to himself and those around him.
Normal? Eric Harris has been identified as a bonafide psychopath. And Dylan Klebold was just a pathetic little boy who followed his lead.

Yes, more guns! That will solve everything.

Originally posted by xmarksthespot
Yes, more guns! That will solve everything.
Okay Mr. Gunman, another Walther please!

those 2 killed for fun, they wanted to outude the massacere at oaklahoma i think it was. either way, they never had a legit motive to kill anybody, Harris did just for the hell of it, and Dylan followed behind him.

Originally posted by Darth Macabre
Normal? Eric Harris has been identified as a bonafide psychopath. And Dylan Klebold was just a pathetic little boy who followed his lead.

In other words all three (including Cho) were practically idiots.