Originally posted by inimalist
okSo in your opinion it is ok for old men to have sex with mature prepubescent girls?
Originally posted by Islamic_Cleric
More evidence that she older than that one little hadith, which BTW, is NOT the end-all-be-all in Islam. Theat Hadith is an unusual one because it was told by one person and was NOT confirmed by anyone else.According to hadith in Bukhari and Muslim, Aisha is said to have joined Muhammad on the raid that culminated in the Battle of Badr, in 624 CE[16] and then in 625 CE in the Battle of Uhud.[17] As no one below the age of fifteen was allowed to accompany raiding parties,[18][19] Aisha should have been at least fifteen in 624 CE and thus at least thirteen when she was married following the Hijra in 622 CE.
Ibn Hisham's recension of Ibn Ishaq's Sirat Rashul Allah, the earliest surviving biography of Muhammad, records Aisha as having converted to Islam before Umar ibn al-Khattab, during the first few years of Islam around 610 CE. In order to accept Islam she must have been walking and talking, hence at least three years of age, which would make her at least fifteen in 622 CE.[20]
Tabari reports that Abu Bakr wished to spare Aisha the discomforts of a journey to Ethiopia soon after 615 CE, and tried to bring forward her marriage to Mut`am's son. Mut`am refused because Abu Bakr had converted to Islam, but if Aisha was already of marriageable age in 615 CE, she must have been older than nine in 622 CE.[5](p.38)
Tabari also reports that Abu Bakr's four children were all born during the Jahiliyyah,[21] the pre Islamic period, which could be said to have ended in 610 CE, making Aisha at least twelve in 622 CE when Aisha started living with Muhammad.
Aisha is reported to have said that at the time Surah Al-Qamar, the 54th chapter of the Qur'an , was revealed, "I was a young girl".[22] The 54th Surah of the Qur'an was revealed nine years before Hijrah.[23] According to this tradition, Aisha had not only been born before the revelation of the referred Surah, but was actually a young girl, not even only an infant at that time. So if this age is assumed to be 7 to 14 years then her age at the time of marriage would be 14 to 21.
According to almost all the historians, Asma the elder sister of Aisha, was ten years older than Aisha.[24][25] Asma is reported to die in the 73rd year after migration of Muhammad when she was 100 years old.[26][27] Now, obviously if Asma was 100 years old in the 73rd year after Migration to Medina, she should have been 27 or 28 years old at the time of migration. If Asma was 27 or 28 years old at the time of hijrah, Aisha should have been 17 or 18 years old at that time. Thus, Aisha - if she got married in 1 AH (after Migration to Medina) or 2 AH - was between 18 to 20 years old at the time of her marriage.
There are more references that point to Aisha being older than 12, which was not only acceptable by the Muslim, non-Muslim community (she was given away WITH her parents blessing), than evidence supporting this hate speech. And it is hate speech because you are blatantly condemning the Religion of Islam and its Prophet, by not only ignoring ALL the evidence, but also subjecting them to today's standards, which is not only extremely unfair and biased; it's irresponsible, cowardly and ill-motivated.