i hate people when they act like they decide where an argument should go and where it shouldnt. especially since the person himself has no freakin clue how something will turn up.
so remulus, stop telling me stuff like "no SNK boss has what it takes to hang with the SF bosses so that argument is dead" because you know its bull and fanboyish to pass such a comment. not to mention you are failing to mention:
Goenitz
Zero
Igniz (who is in fact stronger than Orochi)
Orochi New Face team who were even stronger than Geonitz
Sagat only lost twice and at least there were reasons for his loses, Geese got his ass kicked every rip. Adon aint a wuss, not to mention Sagat put him in the hospital and did it while he was still injured from the METSU Shoryuken. Geese has done nothing but get is ass spanked since day one, eh Sado.
stop making it sound like Terry breezed past Geese. Geese was pounding Terry for almost the entire fight and finally Terry's preserverence saw him through. but wait, that's jobbing. my @$$. like having a godtier run away isn't (bison running away). Darko insists that it was becuase he was shocked...and frankly that doesn't make it any better either.
what was Sagat's reason for losing to Adon. oh wait, he was upset. like that's an explanation. get real. what kind of explanation is that anyway?!
and by the way, the time he fought Adon he was more healed.
and i am sick and tired of people telling me that since Geese is a jobber (only he isn't) it means he loses. At least Geese has won his share of fights. He raped Jeff Bogard who was even better than Takuma. Geese beat Jeff perfect. By the age of 26 Geese had the power of a demon...and he's only gotten stronger since. what are Sagat's feats?
yeah he got his eye ripped out by Dan's father. he lost to Evil Ryu's cheap tactics. he lost again to Adon. the only thing he has ever done is beat SFA3 Psycho Ryu...which isn't saying much since Emp insists that it was because Ryu wasn't even being himself.darko also passed his "scientific" treatise on the thing and insists that ryu wasted a lot of his potential fighting against it.
(emp, it wasn't too long ago that you were insisting that Sagat beating Pscyho Ryu wasn't too much of a big deal because Ryu wasn't being himself...so why the change of heart now?)
no let me make this easier. what has sagat done to make you feel that geese doesn't stand a chance? is Sagat as powerful as a demon? no.
Sagat is a master of ONE from of martial arts. Geese has mastered numerous. Geese has power, reversals, throws, submission holds and was able to survive against a man whose EVERY PUNCH scarred his body (for those who didn't know). Sagat was laid the F out with just one move. pansy. just one scar and he is laid out. he couldn't even beat someone HALF his size (Adon) and just cuz he was upset isn't an excuse.
people here seem to have a problem accepting facts. long time back emperor insisted that Jin beating Kaz and Hachi was them jobbing. however, that's not what the canon story sees. the story means that Jin is better than them both and since he beat them its up to us to accept it and live with it (not jabbing at ya, emp!)
Ryu makes bison runaway and that isn't jobbing. but wait, Terry beating nongodtier Geese in FF1 is jobbing? how? apparently any feat by a non SF character is just jobbing. ryu beats highteir Akuma but that isn't jobbing. Terry beats hightier Krauser and that's jobbing. stop the fanboyism people.
Not commenting on the fight, but uh.....Geese loses a LOT.
this isn't Capcom Styletime. heroes of SNK tend to win every once in a while...much heroes of other games.
and for the record:
Geese has beaten Jeff Bogard, all his previous bosses, Mr. Big, Yamazaki (in KoF97, apparently since he isn't dead and Zaki was there to kill him and get his money), he is known to be better than Takuma, he was pwning Ryo even though he was merely toying around with him (he lost but even then it was only because he tried to counter the ryuku renbu with deadly rave...but Ryo's speed was greater). so please.
what has Sagat done:
Sagat being crowned God of Muay Thai in his teens
does it beat being the strongest fighter in the world and being one of the biggest mobsters. didn't think so?
Basically Toyed around with Psycho Ryu
that's bull. he wasn't toying around with him and you know it.
Surviving the Metsu Shoryuken, a technique that kills with nearly every use
lots of moves of ansatsuken are "killing moves" only they never actually killed anyone. so...no feat.
Being 2nd in the Four Heavenly Kings of Shadoloo
😆 he's a lacky dog to Bison...how is that a feat?
Capcom Basically saying Ryu won by cheap shot which means Sagat was stronger and Ryu can lift several tons and dodge bullets not to mention him being as strong if not stronger then Alpha Gouki and Sagat is still stronger then that
Terry can dodge bullets too, in fact he can take on heavily armed assualt teams on his own and in fact get kicks out of it. argument one pwned.
Terry can overtrun trucks and cars with his burn knuckle which isn't even his strongest move. Ryu could pick up a boulder and it was most likely after some training with Oro.
oh...and what makes you think Terry can't do it? pick up boulders?
Terry took on hightiers and beat them. Sagat took on people way below his league and lost.
Terry took on godtiers and beat them, jobbing or not. Sagat can't even beat someone who is not in his league.
Terry took shots from THINGS like Krauser and Nightmare Geese, returned the favor and won. Sagat took one hit and was laid out by E.Ryu.
Terry took on things like Grant and won. Sagat...i dno't want to repeat myself.
and you were saying something about reality and stepping into it?🙄
Sagat lost once to Evil Ryu, and than beats RYU arse in Alpha 3. Geese lost twice, has no feats and is even important anymore.
Sagat lost once to Evil Ryu, and then beats a possessed Ryu's arse in Alpha3, lost to Adon, has no feats accpet for taking dives and isn't even in SF anymore.
there fixed it for you😉
~Sado