phoenix force vs mad jim jaspers/fury vs pretcon beyonder

Started by citannah1716 pages
Originally posted by starlock
Nice to see another poster with common sense 🙂
of course its a multiversle feat,some people just love to hate 🙁

oh and thank you for the compliment much obligned 😄. but your right some ppl just hate the FACTS any hoo their problem not ours.

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
Based on what Jaspers achieved I agree. Based on what he could have become I have to disagree.

Very objective statement. 🙂

Unlike some people who try to present a possible unrealised future vision as evidence of what Jaspers is capable of in the present.

Given that we dont know how those future possibilities came about and we only know the present and the future and nothing of what came in between thats naive dont you think?

For all we know an external factor could have come into play.

Originally posted by citannah17
you know what GS i'm glad your here i almost let him get over on me you know i actually thought the panel said it was aligned. because i took MR. MASTER'S word for it which was a big mistake seeing as he always interpets panels and scans as he sees fit. so thank you should have known he'd try to jiff me over 😠 .

Whoa! never do that ,especialy with certain members but i see your catching on to one certain member way to go 😄

Originally posted by starlock
Whoa! never do that ,especialy with certain members but i see your catching on to one certain member way to go 😄

thanx for the heads up don't know what i was thinking 🙄 .

No need to fall prey to the simple things in life. 🙂

This is before the Phoenix even came into the picture:

It clearly says

"when a series of interfaces across the Multiverse were aligned, the localized energy fields merged...

to Create an Energy Matrix."

The Energy fields merge ON THEIR OWN...

and the Interfaces across the Mulitverse Align BY THEMSELVES...

AT the MOMENT of ALIGNMENT, THEN Feron called Phoenix to project the Tower"

a less than monumental feat ... considering it was the Energy Matrix (ON IT"S OWN) that allows simultaneous existence in the Multiverse when the Interfaces Across are Aligned, Which Also happens ON it's OWN.....

Phoenix made a duplicate of the original Tower and it simultaneously duplicated itself across the Multi-verse because of the Interface Alingment.

Bottomline: Without the Interface Alignment, this Feat would Never exist.

yawn

BTW.

Sock support counts for nothing. 🙄

Originally posted by Mr Master
No need to fall prey to the simple things in life. 🙂

This is before the Phoenix even came into the picture:

It clearly says

"when a series of interfaces across the Multiverse were aligned, the localized energy fields merged...

to Create an Energy Matrix."

The Energy fields merge ON THEIR OWN...

and the Interfaces across the Mulitverse Align BY THEMSELVES...

AT the MOMENT of ALIGNMENT, THEN Feron called Phoenix to project the Tower"

a less than monumental feat ... considering it was the Energy Matrix (ON IT"S OWN) that allows simultaneous existence in the Multiverse when the Interfaces Across are Aligned, Which Also happens ON it's OWN.....

Phoenix made a duplicate of the original Tower and it simultaneously duplicated itself across the Multi-verse because of the Interface Alingment.

Bottomline: Without the Interface Alignment, this Feat would Never exist.

yawn

Please point out where in those scans it stated the matrix dupilcated the tower or drop the point. 👇

The interfaces aligned periodically but as stated before Phoenix stabilised it it was unusable.

Phoenix threaded the interfaces together as stated by the comic, she projected the essence of the tower on to every plane of reality tying together the matrix. That is stated plain as day.

Once again, show us where its stated that the matrix duplicated the towers or give it up, because its quite clear for everone that actually ignores your commentary and reads the scans that Phoenix projected the towers essence on to every reality of the multiverse, via the gateway the alignment caused. The alignment made a big funnel through the multiverse, Phoenix projected the towers essence through that big dimensional tunnel on to every reality.

Doesnt get much clearer than that.

Originally posted by Mr Master
BTW.

Sock support counts for nothing. 🙄

I hope thats not directed at me? 😬

Either way, the only time we ever see Smoki is when youre getting battered in a debate. 😱

Read it! 🙂

Originally posted by Mr Master
This is before the Phoenix even came into the picture:

It clearly says

"when a series of interfaces across the Multiverse were aligned,

the localized energy fields merged...

to Create an Energy Matrix."

ON THEIR OWN!!!!

The Energy fields merge ON THEIR OWN...

and the Interfaces across the Mulitverse Align BY THEMSELVES...

"AT the MOMENT of ALIGNMENT,

THEN Feron called Phoenix to project the Tower"

a less than monumental feat ...

considering it was the Energy Matrix (ON IT"S OWN)

that allows simultaneous existence in the Multiverse when the Interfaces Across are Aligned,

Which Also happens ON it's OWN.....

Phoenix made a duplicate of the original Tower and it simultaneously duplicated itself across the Multi-verse because of the Interface Alingment.

It's not like Phoenix had to enter each Reality individualy and create a Tower in each, because Phoenix had ACCESS to ALL the Realities in the Multiverse VIA the Interface Alignment.

And yes, this kept the Matrix that formed ON IT'S OWN momentarily, permanent.

Bottomline: Without the Interface Alignment, this Feat would Never exist.

yawn

Don't play yourself.

Originally posted by GalacticStorm
I hope thats not directed at me? 😬

Either way, the only time we ever see Smoki is when youre getting battered in a debate. 😱

Oh you have Smoki as my sock now too?

😆 I thought I was Supreme Being? I thought I was T? I thought I was Nik?

And others that don't come to mind.

I guess anyone who agrees with is my Sock.

But when a certain real Sock is swetting all your bull shit that's cool ...and ok,

and it makes him an intellectual debater doesn't it gs?

Get over yourself.

Originally posted by Mr Master
Read it! 🙂

Don't play yourself.

No answer to my query. That speaks volumes. 🙂

Originally posted by Mr Master
Oh you have Smoki as my sock now too?

😆 I thought I was Supreme Being? I thought I was T? I thought I was Nik?

And others that don't come to mind.

I guess anyone who agrees with is my Sock.

But when a certain real Sock is swetting all your bull shit that's cool ...and ok,

and it makes him an intellectual debater doesn't gs?

Get over yourself.

Holy Moly Batman. The hypocricy has blinded me.

Originally posted by Mr Master
Oh you have Smoki as my sock now too?

😆 I thought I was Supreme Being? I thought I was T? I thought I was Nik?

And others that don't come to mind.

I guess anyone who agrees with is my Sock.

But when a certain real Sock is swetting all your bull shit that's cool ...and ok,

and it makes him an intellectual debater doesn't gs?

Get over yourself.

Dont recall ever calling you Supreme Being and i certainly havent called you Nik, wrong member, redirect your comments. 🙂

Sweating my bullsh*t? 😕

Your comments have been torn apart and i asked for a replacement argument.

I am still waiting. 👇

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
Holy Moly Batman. The hypocricy has blinded me.

😆

Originally posted by GalacticStorm
Dont recall ever calling you Supreme Being and i certainly havent called you Nik, wrong member, redirect your comments.

Sweating my bullsh*t?
Your comments have been torn apart and i asked for a replacement argument.

I am still waiting

Same ol thing, sign23

We're all socks, yes oh my ... the socks are here. runforhills

Get that shit out of here and accept that others agree with me too biatch.

Originally posted by Mr Master
Same ol thing, sign23

We're all socks, yes oh my ... the socks are here. runforhills

Get that shit out of here and accept that others agree with me too biatch.

Got no issues with that whasoever, each to their own, however deluded a choice it might be. 🙂

You were the one to mention socks to me, i use none and yet Smoki is conspicuous in his absence. 😖hifty:

Lets have another debate where i will inevitably thrash you and lets see how quickly he can pop up to nuzzle your sac. 😱

Originally posted by Mr Master
Same ol thing, sign23

We're all socks, yes oh my ... the socks are here. runforhills

Get that shit out of here and accept that others agree with me too biatch.

Originally posted by Mr Master
BTW.

Sock support counts for nothing. 🙄

you do know that calling ppl SOCKS is rude and btw if you didn't know it's one of the lamest comebacks i have ever heard the audacity of some ppl they get mad and call others SOCKS real mature maybe you should do a little growing up 😄 .

Originally posted by citannah17
you do know that calling ppl SOCKS is rude and btw if you didn't know it's one of the lamest comebacks i have ever heard the audacity of some ppl they get mad and call others SOCKS real mature maybe you should do a little growing up .

I wasn't calling you a sock dude,

we all know who the real Sock is, and he continues to be just that.

Now you on the other hand, are ... who are you? And what do you want?

This is a debate forum, mind your business and debate issues concerning Comics.

My beef with GS is our own, only a newb such as yourself would get in the way,
the rest of the pros know the deal, he insults me constantly and I'm not ashamed to say I do the same.

That's how we do, we debate and then war. 🙂

Originally posted by illadelph12
😆

Break them Beyonce pics out. Some Esther Baxter and Melyssa Ford pics too while you're at it. 😄

As for the fight, all Phoenix has is BFR as a possible tactic, and that's not even a proven course of action considering Fury's adaptations and ability to exist in the void. Timeline alteration likely won't work because many characters exist as a temporal paradox and Jaspers can rewrite the rules anyway.

Also, sort of an aside, and though this probably was never considered back in the old comic, but Jasper's shouldn't be powerless in a void because his presence in itself means their is reality to manipulate (his own being, and at that point, Fury's as well). Upon further logical analysis, that defeat makes no sense. Jaspers should have been able to pull a Tetsuo (for the Akira heads, word life) either on his own substance or Fury's, but it's really of no consequence. It doesn't effect this board battle.

Draw, and that glass crown has another crack in it.

Frankly, this post from Illa should have ended it. The fact that this is even a viable tactic, but not only that, IT'S EASILY WITHIN HIS POWERS, should say that Phoenix has no chance.