Originally posted by Strangelove
Homosexuality is present in all cultures. You can claim that it has all but one of the requirements to be considered a "culture," but you're forgetting the crucial factor that there is no social center.Suggesting that there is a "gay culture" is on par with saying that there is a "blue-eyed culture"
Your comparing homosexuality to having a different color of eye? You can't be serious.
Originally posted by Starhawk
I did, you simply don't want to read back and look them over.
I can't read something that doesn't exist, and it would be extremely easy of you to make me for the fool by simply pasting a link now.
You failed to support your wild claim, don't worry though, I doubt people think any less of you. Though counselor, a Judge would knock you on your ass for it.
Originally posted by Starhawk
1) They have to have existed for at least a set amount of time (I'll have to look that up)2) Their own cultural aspects, beliefs, traditions, clothing, common practices, music and literature.
I believe their are more I will look them up.
Okay, so for the sake of your own argument, what are the following:
Gay beliefs
Gay Traditions
Gay Clothing
Common gay practices
Gay liturature
Gay music
Originally posted by Starhawk
I am in no way "stamping my feet". Simply read back, it's also that easy.
I have repeatedly told you that I did read back, I cannot find it, so PLEASE POST THE LINK AND SHOW ME FOR THE FOOL . But I have a feeling you'll keep stamping your little feet and saying "I did, I did!"
Or, answer DevilKings post above, it's very similar to what I asked you.
Originally posted by Devil King
Okay, so for the sake of your own argument, what are the following:Gay beliefs
Gay Traditions
Gay Clothing
Common gay practices
Gay liturature
Gay music
Read over this article. Since I am not Homosexual myself I want to make sure the information is correct.
Originally posted by Starhawk
No I simply do not want to misrepresent that culture as it is not my own.
Obviously if you really think a culture exist, you see certain aspects that differentiate 'it' from others. Yet you can't say what, which or how.
You fail miserably counselor... I'd hate to see you in the court room.
Originally posted by Starhawk
Read over this article. Since I am not Homosexual myself I want to make sure the information is correct.
I don't know everything about homosexuality just because I'm gay, but the first issue I have is with your use of a wikipedia article.
That aside, the article in no way addresses a gay culture. On the contrary, it repeatedly addresses homosexuality inside the context of culture.
It addresses homosexuality in art.
It addresses homosexuality in the military through out history.
It addresses homosexuality in religion through out the history of religion.
It in no way addresses "gay culture".
Originally posted by Starhawk
No I simply do not want to misrepresent that culture as it is not my own.
so generally you want to be able to say that there are certain distinguishable qualities of homosexual culture but want to be exempt from giving specific examples of these qualities?
look, I even am sympathetic to what you are saying, but you are going to have to give a better example than that.
Originally posted by Devil King
I don't know everything about homosexuality just because I'm gay, but the first issue I have is with your use of a wikipedia article.That aside, the article in no way addresses a gay culture. On the contrary, it repeatedly addresses homosexuality [b]inside the context of culture
.It addresses homosexuality in art.
It addresses homosexuality in the military through out history.
It addresses homosexuality in religion through out the history of religion.
It in no way addresses "gay culture". [/B]
It addresses aspects that contribute to a cultural dynamic of the gay society.
Originally posted by Starhawk
More insults with nothing to back them up.
How was that an insult? It was an observation, you made a claim; yet when asked to support said claim, you failed to; that's "failing miserably" as fact. So you failed yet again with your attempt to vilify me as an empty insulter.
You can simply redeem yourself by backing up your claim about "gay culture". It's that easy, and it shouldn't be hard to do for a self proclaimed "well-educated intellectual".