Father Says Sons Traumatized by Lesbian Library Book

Originally posted by Starhawk
It addresses aspects that contribute to a cultural dynamic of the gay society.

No, it does not. In almost all aspects it addresses the presence of homosexuality in culture, not a homosexual culture. Beyond that, it addresses homosexuality in specific cultures. It addresses homosexuality in Asia, the Middle East, Europe, etc. You think that homosexuals in every country around the world act exactly the same or read the same books or listen to teh same music? Maybe a lot of stereotypes can be found in the Uk or Canada and the United States, but if there were a gay culture then it would be a common culture shared by all homosexuals; this simply is not the case. Again, you're using your own engrained notion of homosexuality to justify your opinion.

Originally posted by Starhawk
I already did that once and posted a link to clarify. Please read both.

The only thing you did so far is post a "Wiki" link *snicker* about Homosexuality and as Devil King pointed out, it had nothing to do with your "gay culture" claim. Fail and try again.

Would you say that a "well-educated intellectual" could say in his own words what "gay culture" is and not have to rely solely on an irrelevant Wikipedia article?

Originally posted by Devil King
No, it does not. In almost all aspects it addresses the presence of homosexuality [b]in culture, not a homosexual culture. Beyond that, it addresses homosexuality in specific cultures. It addresses homosexuality in Asia, the Middle East, Europe, etc. You think that homosexuals in every country around the world act exactly the same or read the same books or listen to teh same music? Maybe a lot of stereotypes can be found in the Uk or Canada and the United States, but if there were a gay culture then it would be a common culture shared by all homosexuals; this simply is not the case. Again, you're using your own engrained notion of homosexuality to justify your opinion. [/B]

Through the wonder of the Internet I have met people all over and talked with many gay people and yes they share similarities the world over. Perhaps. And if your using that as a criteria then french and Spanish are not cultures under your reasoning as people in Quebec do not share the exact same cultural dynamics as France. The same can be said of Spain and Mexico.

Originally posted by Starhawk
Through the wonder of the Internet I have met people all over and talked with many gay people and yes they share similarities the world over. Perhaps. And if your using that as a criteria then french and Spanish are not cultures under your reasoning as people in Quebec do not share the exact same cultural dynamics as France. The same can be said of Spain and Mexico.

Yes, they all attracted to and sleep with people of their own gender. My criteria? I have stated no criteria. You're the only one doing that.

Actually, you havn't stated any criteria. At least none that you have backed up. And you know very well why; you can't without showing off your stereotyping. Actually, it's the very same thing the father in the thread topic is doing.

Originally posted by Starhawk
Through the wonder of the Internet I have met people all over and talked with many gay people and yes they share similarities the world over. Perhaps. And if your using that as a criteria then french and Spanish are not cultures under your reasoning as people in Quebec do not share the exact same cultural dynamics as France. The same can be said of Spain and Mexico.

That begs the question (which you avoided last time among many), is there a "straight culture" that links all straight people under one huge global cultural blanket? What about "bisexual culture", "bestiality culture" etc., if sexuality is a culture onto itself.

Anyone think to study the Aborigines? They haven't been influenced by the media.

Originally posted by Devil King
Yes, they all attracted to and sleep with people of their own gender. My criteria? I have stated no criteria. You're the only one doing that.

Actually, you havn't stated any criteria. At least none that you have backed up. And you know very well why; you can't without showing off your stereotyping. Actually, it's the very same thing the father in the thread topic is doing.

Yes you simply need to read over it again and you have not backed up any of the claims you just made.

Devil King... this guy is blatantly trolling us, or he's really just a witless buffoon. It's very simple, if someone makes a claim, they should be able to back it up (and posting irrelevant Wiki articles doesn't count); I think everyone can agree with this.

Originally posted by Starhawk
Yes you simply need to read over it again and you have not backed up any of the claims you just made.

I haven't backed up any of the claims because I made none. You want to say that I'm the one who stated that the basis for culture is shared art, liturature, length of existence, music, common practices, etc. Now you refuse to respond to my question about those criteria and how any of them are gay specific. Don't think you're going to irritate me into defending your own cliams for you. I'm not the one that brought up Quebec. You did. I never said they were the same culture, you simply said I inferred it. It's a fact that France is a major influence on Quebec. But that's just more distracting of the issue.

You have failed to back up your claims and now want to tell me I have done the same, despite not having made any. That's just childish. My point has been made repeatedly and I have no further interest in playing games with you. I've entertained you long enough.

Originally posted by Robtard
Devil King... this guy is blatantly trolling us, or he's really just an witless buffoon. It's very simple, if someone makes a claim, they should be able to back it up (and posting [B]irrelevant Wiki articles doesn't count); I think everyone can agree with this. [/B]

He's been doing it the whole time.

Originally posted by Robtard
Devil King... this guy is blatantly trolling us, or he's really just a witless buffoon. It's very simple, if someone makes a claim, they should be able to back it up (and posting [B]irrelevant Wiki articles doesn't count); I think everyone can agree with this. [/B]

He's been blatantly trolling in every thread in which he participates. Just because he's a sock doesn't mean that he can't participate in a conversation. But he's not even trying.

Originally posted by Devil King
He's been blatantly trolling in every thread in which he participates. Just because he's a sock doesn't mean that he can't participate in a conversation. But he's not even trying.

Yeah... I'm done feeding him; trolls are rendered impotent when they're ignored.

Originally posted by Starhawk
Your comparing homosexuality to having a different color of eye? You can't be serious.

dont argue with starhawk. he's well educated in searching wikipedia and referencing it as a source. that sould prove right there that he's the champ.

Originally posted by Schecter
dont argue with starhawk. he's well educated in searching wikipedia and referencing it as a source. that sould prove right there that he's the champ.

and an "intellectual"...

Originally posted by Starhawk
Since they are meaningless and make no sense feel free. Just so I know, do you plan to bring up any intellectual points at all?

Originally posted by Strangelove
It's a part of who a person is. Much like homosexuality. And blue eyes is a trait that is present in most cultures, also like homosexuality. I don't see how it's a stretch 😬

Yes but the color of your eye has almost no impact on who you are or how you live your life, as opposed to homosexuality which has a great impact.

And guys sorry I can't respond to every post, I had to go out for abit.

In any event read over that article again.

yeah, he cant lie and insult EVERYONE, you know. you'll all just have to wait while he dodges your points one at a time. sheeese starhawk, whats with these people, huh?

Starhawk:

If you had to say, which cultural label will tell you more about the behaviour and overall culture of an individual, "gay" or "liberal"?

Originally posted by inimalist
Starhawk:

If you had to say, which cultural label will tell you more about the behaviour and overall culture of an individual, "gay" or "liberal"?

Depends, if you want a very general idea of the person then Liberal. For a more shall we say "honed" idea I would say Gay.