Originally posted by olympian
So, where did Superman ever stomped high bricks with a speedblitz under a second?DragonBawling goes strong.
He would only be favorable if he had more than one advantage over the team. He doesnt.
Viz is a better stealth member. Sersi is flat out more powerful, and magically, Hercules and Hulk together are just flat out stronger, Hulk has the dinamic strength, Hercules is the better skilled, WonderMan got the strength and superspeed, four here are fliers, three can attack from a distance, all but one can wail up close, and some can act as cannon fodder.
Kal only got speed on his side and its the reason why he will take some down before being underhelmed.
**** DB, what the hell does that have to do with anything?
And Supes still take this (easy). He has speed, strength, durability, highten senses, and long range attacks. He could just speedbiltz them, take the fight into space, or take them out one by one by seperating them to do battle one on one (it'll take for ever for any of them to find them across other side of the planet).
Originally posted by Validus
lawlDefinitely racist.
I just like yellow alot more than blue *lols*
Originally posted by dvampire
**** DB, what the hell does that have to do with anything?And Supes still take this (easy). He has speed, strength, durability, highten senses, and long range attacks. He could just speedbiltz them, take the fight into space, or take them out one by one by seperating them to do battle one on one (it'll take for ever for any of them to find them across other side of the planet).
Yeah, thats what the hell i mean.
You keep making Superman in a speedblitz dragonball figthing machine when he never figths that way, he dsoesnt belong in the same track. The Forum Rules dont account for making up abilities.
The other side also has superspeed and fligth(albeigh not as high), but higher energy projections, higher stealth, teamwork, better figthing skills overall, the advantage in numbers, much higher strength, magic and better looks than Kal does.
Originally posted by olympian
I just like yellow alot more than blue *lols*Yeah, thats what the hell i mean.
You keep making Superman in a speedblitz dragonball machine when he never figths that way. The Forum Rules dont account for making up abilities.
Good point. They do think that he is goku or even krillin. Superman dont have or use speed like them so I dont know why theyre trying to give it to him all of a sudden.
Youre making good points, just keep debating and maybe you could change there mind. Some of us have already gave up on them but we're still reading what you are posting.
Originally posted by olympian
You keep making Superman in a speedblitz dragonball figthing machine when he never figths that way, he doesnt belong in the same track. The Forum Rules dont account for making up abilities.The other side also has superspeed and fligth(albeigh not as high), but higher energy projections, higher stealth, teamwork, better figthing skills overall, the advantage in numbers, much higher strength, magic and better looks than Kal does.
Really? How do you explain page 5?
The people arguing against Superman are having him fight like an idiot... and not Superman using his full range of powers, having him allowing slow dumbasses to close in on him and hold him down, when he has the range, the strength, the intelligence, the speed, to keep pretty much the entire team at bay and pick and choose his battles as he sees fit. And deal with each accordingly.
Anyways, I take solace in looking at whos voting for what across the thread.
Not much more really needs to be done here.
I do think Superman would win eventually, due to what he brings vs what they lack.
But it won't be a second, or even a minute.
It'll take awhile to do so.
And Olympian is a competent poster.
Better than those who say Superman wins in a second, when he's never beaten a top tier in that amount of time, much less a team of them.
Originally posted by carver9
Good point. They do think that he is goku or even krillin. Superman dont have or use speed like them so I dont know why theyre trying to give it to him all of a sudden.Youre making good points, just keep debating and maybe you could change there mind. Some of us have already gave up on them but we're still reading what you are posting.
Superman is way faster than DBZ characters. Faster than light is far greater than supersonic speeds. Unless you're trying to say that every manga character that display superspeed is faster than comic characters. Because DBZ isn't the only manga/anime that protray speed like that (using scrimble/scramble when they fight while repeating the same animation over and the blinking out of the away that's used as superspeed); You have One Piece, Fist of the North Star, Bleach, Naruto, Hunter x Hunter, Yu yu Hakusho, and many many more. The examples that was shown above by Jun is proof right in your face that he does use his speed often, and against characters with superspeed themselves.
Superman is faster in travel speed, surely.But in fighting speeds?
DBZ characters take him out to the yard.
Manga he might be faster.
Anime, they walk over him. Heck, in the first anime arc, Raditz was going ftl.
No comparison.
Theres no proof to any of these theories. Fighting speed is hard to determine. Although based off his lightspeed running feat with the flash, Superman has at least lightspeed reflexes.
Raditz being faster than light was an error in the dub. The original line is Piccolo saying how fast raditz is.
If Raditz and subsequent Z fighters can think and move their limbs at faster than light speeds why would they bother flying to travel? Even Gotenks couldn't fly at lightspeed. Also why would it take Goku so long to travel snakeway which is only 100,000 miles long? At light speed he would of travelled that distance in moments.
All we know about their combat speed is that's its faster than the human eye. Even then that's not true all the time as normal have been able to watch fights.
Carver and olympian versus competent posters, you mean?
Olympian has the firm belief all top tiers can score a number of wins against each other no matter their power sets. Which is fair enough.
Carver, seems to have a huge grudge against Superman.
Originally posted by Galvaclaw
Theres no proof to any of these theories. Fighting speed is hard to determine. Although based off his lightspeed running feat with the flash, Superman has at least lightspeed reflexes.Raditz being faster than light was an error in the dub. The original line is Piccolo saying how fast raditz is.
If Raditz and subsequent Z fighters can think and move their limbs at faster than light speeds why would they bother flying to travel? Even Gotenks couldn't fly at lightspeed. Also why would it take Goku so long to travel snakeway which is only 100,000 miles long? At light speed he would of travelled that distance in moments.
All we know about their combat speed is that's its faster than the human eye. Even then that's not true all the time as normal have been able to watch fights.
Olympian has the firm belief all top tiers can score a number of wins against each other no matter their power sets. Which is fair enough.
Carver, seems to have a huge grudge against Superman.
What lightspeed running feat with the flash?
You mean when he was trying to find out who Flash was, and kept pace until Flash hit the sound barrier? That wasn't anywhere near lightspeed.
Clark has never hit lightspeed in footpower, as far as i know.
Everything else i'll concede....except when were normal humans able to watch the fights at higher levels in DBZ?