darthgoober's Amalgam Tournament Conformation Thread

Originally posted by Blair Wind
So we are allowing totally uncounterable attacks (just like I doubt zero has ever been countered?)

I thought that was one of the reasons Matter manip was banned?

I mean if Zero were facing Thanos who had tech, would he at the very least take out all his tech? If the answer is yes how can he be allowed? 😐

Zero wouldn't take out Thanos' tech. 😆 That's the epitome of exagerration.

Zero doesn't simply override anything technological. It's not like Zero would destroy Galactuses' World Ship. He can only eliminate weapons and tech less advanced than himself (problem being he's from the distant future).

Death's Head II would likely annihilate Zero. Ironman, I'm not so sure about. I'm not well versed in the counter-measures Tony's built into his armor against external overrides.

how far in the future was stryfe's world, anyway . . .?

Originally posted by leonidas
how far in the future was stryfe's world, anyway . . .?

Over a thousand years I believe. Like 3800's or something right?

39th Century.

From the wiki on Zero.

Zero's primary task was peace-keeping and to do so he was equipped with scanners, capable of determining a person or objects capabilities, purpose and potential. He could then use his ability to dampen and project energy to neutralize any threats, turning most advanced weapons useless and killing any potentially dangerous humans. Zero also had the ability to teleport: he opened portals between two different points, but he could only keep these portals open for a short period of time as Reaper found out to his regret.

Killing any dangerous humans. And we already know he can kill and neutralize biological weapons of war. If it was just tech, why did that machine guy get vaporized?

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Originally posted by darthgoober
But the thing is, I don't think it IS totally uncounterable. If he shuts down tech using an energy field(which is what I understand) then it's not really any different than an EM field which does the same thing. Plenty of tech based characters have counters for that kind of thing which is why I'll allow it as long as tech is his limit.

From Deadpool's wiki:

In a climactic battle at a Far East temple where Tolliver had hidden a cache of ordnance and the true prize - Zero, an ADAM-Unit from Cable and Tolliver's future time period designed to nullify weapons of war - all parties were thrown together and Copycat attempted to sacrifice herself to save Deadpool from the vengeful Slayback. Having been activated by the use of weaponry by the 3 main combatants, Zero activated and discorporated Slayback (while deeming Weasel as harmless and Kane as primarily benevolent) and would have done the same to Deadpool until the mercenary chose to save Copycat's life by causing her to duplicate his regenerative powers at speed to partially restore herself from her wound.

It's not just tech, he kills individuals with war-like tendencies.

Which is why he didn't kill Stryfe, the members of the MLF, or X-Force instantly...

Originally posted by illadelph12
Which is why he didn't kill Stryfe, the members of the MLF, or X-Force instantly...

Strfye reprogrammed him before he reactivated him, programming with several commands. Including loyalty to him, do not attack the MLF and other things. The reason he didn't fight X-force, was because Stryfe didn't want the secrets of the legacy virus, which Zero was carrying, to be captured. Zero deactivated upon Stryfe's death. Later, Tolliver gained possession of him. DP and a few others were fighting over one of Tolliver's weapon storage areas, when a stray shot woke up Zero. Which is the scans that Scoob showed everyone.

Originally posted by illadelph12
Which is why he didn't kill Stryfe, the members of the MLF, or X-Force instantly...

Stryfe is from the same era as the ADAM units ... it's not inconceivable that he had some means to control or reprogram Zero once he got hold of him.

So Zero can be reprogrammed...?

Why not just send him solo against X-Force...?

Originally posted by illadelph12
So Zero can be reprogrammed...?

Why not just send him solo against X-Force...?

Stryfe wanted the world to suffer via the Legacy virus, beyond that, he wanted Jean Grey and Scott Summers to suffer. The rest didn't matter as much to him. And Zero was only reprogrammed once, by Stryfe. After which time, he developed his own AI and free will when he was activated again.

Plus, Strfye had 39th century tech on his side.

when zero first appeared (in the new mutants as one of the mlf), he was used solely as a teleporter. he never gave any indication of the energy dampening powers he later showed. i think the writers evolved him, possibly during his appearances in askani's sons?

Originally posted by TricksterPriest
Stryfe wanted the world to suffer via the Legacy virus, beyond that, he wanted Jean Grey and Scott Summers to suffer. The rest didn't matter as much to him. And Zero was only reprogrammed once, by Stryfe. After which time, he developed his own AI and free will when he was activated again.

Plus, Strfye had 39th century tech on his side.

Sentient machines have been hacked/over-ridden many times. Hell, Bastion did it to Machine Man. I don't see the issue there. However, I do see that as a form of mind control. There's a difference between turning off someone's blaster or armor and shutting down a sentient being (be they artificial or not). If that ability can be used on sentient machines it should be banned. 👇

Yar! When there be battles to judge?

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Originally posted by DigiMark007
Yar! When there be battles to judge?

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Long Pig vs. all the other compeditors. Issue: Zero. Goober plainly doesn't understand how Zero works and LP's arguement is a dodge for the real problem. that Zero stop tech, powers, and is virtually unstoppable. He's over the cap.

Originally posted by DigiMark007
Yar! When there be battles to judge?

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In many moons the great goober shall rise and his power shall spread across KMC calling fallen warriors to do battle.

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Like 2 or 3 weeks?

Hey guys would you count a char. bio in Official marvel universe handbook an appearance? 😱 Planning on changing a draft. Char..

Originally posted by Roldz
Hey guys would you count a char. bio in Official marvel universe handbook an appearance?

No . . .

1 out of 12 contestants..
Need other opinions..lol again

Im changing 1 of my draft to this guy;
Xorn http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xorn_%28comics%29
I already pm'ed Darth this changed, just awaiting for his response and since its a late entry, i just want to be sure its fair to everyone..

His feats was amp via a drug, same drug that allowed Nitro to level that small town. He was also fatally wounded by Logan so his def. can be killed via physical attack..

Anyway just wanna make sure everyone is okay w/ this.. 😄