Originally posted by Starhawk
I hope your drunk to make a stupid remark like that.And no I have not been 'owned' simply because I don't buy into right wing big business propaganda.
And the conservatives in my country are really taking a hit in the polls for not supporting it.
And yet once again you ignore my post, and you refuse to listen to the other side of the argument. Just watch the movie and then come back. It can't hurt you know...
Originally posted by Fishy
I completely agree, I wouldn't call either one of them definite or true, the problem for me is however that it has created doubts about global warming in my mind. So I don't think we should risk millions of lives before we are sure. That's all I am saying. Once we are sure we should however do everything we can, until that moment the risk is just to great.
I think we agree then 🙂
I really liked the swindle movie. There is a major issue of intimidation from the environmental community on science in this issue, as well as government I'm sure.
I guess for every government or corporate censored report there is another scientist somewhere getting death threats for publishing reports against human caused warming.
Originally posted by Starhawk
To sit though a couple of hours of right wing propaganda can be more painful then you know.
And you don't know, that's the entire problem. You call it right wing propaganda when you don't even know the movie. You don't know the arguments and you don't know the people in it. You know nothing of it and judge it as right wing propaganda just because it doesn't support your argument. Your doing exactly what you are accusing us of doing. At least we admit there is a possibility we are wrong. You just completely ignore all evidence all arguments and keep saying the exact same thing over and over and over again.
Originally posted by Fishy
And you don't know, that's the entire problem. You call it right wing propaganda when you don't even know the movie. You don't know the arguments and you don't know the people in it. You know nothing of it and judge it as right wing propaganda just because it doesn't support your argument. Your doing exactly what you are accusing us of doing. At least we admit there is a possibility we are wrong. You just completely ignore all evidence all arguments and keep saying the exact same thing over and over and over again.
Also some of us sat through 1 hour and 36 minutes of left wing propaganda to hear their argument, which are all challenged by other credible sources.
The thing is, we do, factually not know. Despite what environmentalist movements claim to be and were able to convinced great percentages of our population
http://www.livescience.com/environment/070509_extreme_summers.html
10 degrees in 70 + years?
hardly the end of the world in my opinion 😛
Originally posted by Starhawk
Again, you guys only choose to listen to the right wing crowd, who are hardly unbiased as they are trying to protect the economy from a minor inconvenience.
How do you know? You haven't even freaking seen any of our sources, you just claim they are right wing and then ignore them.
Originally posted by Starhawk
No I did look at his link, as for your film, no, because the idea that anyone who try to cover up what is happening to our environment simply to aid big business sickens me.
How in heavens name do you know that? You haven't even seen the movie and you already assume that it's right winged propaganda. I am seriously feeling sorry for any possible future clients you will ever have, they are going to jail for sure.
Originally posted by Starhawk
1) Because I have seen right wing politicians tout these movies as part of their arguments.2) I want to be a prosecutor, not a defense attorney.
1) And I have seen left winged anarchists, communists and nutjobs use an inconvenient truth as part of theirs, that doesn't mean I didn't watch it. Just because somebody you don't like uses something as an argument doesn't mean you can ignore it completely.
2.) Then I feel really sorry for the people of Canada, because of a lot of people are going to walk free if you continue to argue and think like you do now.
Originally posted by Starhawk
How typical, you call anyone who isn't drooling at the mouth at the thought of big business profits a communist. I seriously think you need to understand what that word means.And I do quite well, in class we do mock court cases and so far I have only lost once.
I didn't call anybody that doesn't do that a communist, in fact I didn't call them anything. You on the other hand call everybody that wishes to listen to both sides of the argument a right winged nutjob...
And is that class of yours one where you aren't required to listen to the other side? Are allowed to be over generalizing and not post any evidence for anything you claim? If so, I can see why you would win.