Canada disgraces itself on the enviroment.

Originally posted by Bardock42
And it should be for everyone. People can't just live for free because they are incompetent. Makes no sense.

That is an incredibly stupid and ignorant thing to say.

So your saying all poor and disabled people are incompetent? Not everyone can become rich. Not everyone has the same advantages growing up. Not everyone can AFFORD college or university.

Sorry if people making piles of cash have to pay a little more that they wont even notice.

So in your system how much money you have determines your value?

Originally posted by Starhawk
That is an incredibly stupid and ignorant thing to say.

So your saying all poor and disabled people are incompetent? Not everyone can become rich. Not everyone has the same advantages growing up. Not everyone can AFFORD college or university.

Sorry if people making piles of cash have to pay a little more that they wont even notice.

So in your system how much money you have determines your value?

Is this really Starhawk? 😆

Yes why?

Originally posted by Starhawk
That is an incredibly stupid and ignorant thing to say.

So your saying all poor and disabled people are incompetent? Not everyone can become rich. Not everyone has the same advantages growing up. Not everyone can AFFORD college or university.

Sorry if people making piles of cash have to pay a little more that they wont even notice.

So in your system how much money you have determines your value?

Dude, it's alright not to make much money if you provide a needed service. Just what rich people do is just way more important to society. You want people that contribute almost nothing already to contribute even less. That's bullshit. Make it fair at least, it is not the duty of the able people to provide for the unable. Even if they had advantages before.

Originally posted by Bardock42
Yes.

Dude, it's alright not to make much money if you provide a needed service. Just what rich people do is just way more important to society. You want people that contribute almost nothing already to contribute even less. That's bullshit. Make it fair at least, it is not the duty of the able people to provide for the unable. Even if they had advantages before.

I know thinking of someone besides yourself goes against human nature but YES it is their duty. We live in a society and they have a responsibility through taxes to assist with those less fortunate. If I were you I wouldn't sound high and mighty, selfishness is not a virtue.

Originally posted by Bardock42
Just what rich people do is just way more important to society.

Explore this thought deeper. I don't follow.

Originally posted by chithappens
Explore this thought deeper. I don't follow.

I think he means getting drunk, sleeping with hookers, and hiring some "less" important people to do the real work. LOL

Originally posted by chithappens
Explore this thought deeper. I don't follow.

They get more money because their service is more valued. Whether they are able to pull in business deals with foreign corporations, play enjoyable basketball or invented pocketknifes.

They provide something lots of people want and need. And they do it good or there would be others to do it (in theory). But generally...the person that works at Walmart (and I am not saying there is anything wrong with it) just isn't as important to society as the person that knows where to open Walmarts, how to negotiate with farmers and how to do the logistiscs....

Originally posted by Starhawk
I know thinking of someone besides yourself goes against human nature but YES it is their duty. We live in a society and they have a responsibility through taxes to assist with those less fortunate. If I were you I wouldn't sound high and mighty, selfishness is not a virtue.

Oh hell yes it is.

Originally posted by Starhawk
I know thinking of someone besides yourself goes against human nature but YES it is their duty. We live in a society and they have a responsibility through taxes to assist with those less fortunate. If I were you I wouldn't sound high and mighty, selfishness is not a virtue.

Of course they have a duty, it's the same as everyone else. They shouldn't have to do MORE just because thy're successful, THAT isn't their responsibility. Their responsibility is the same as everyone elses.

Originally posted by Bardock42
Oh hell yes it is.

LOL it's logic like that which caused the french and russian revolutions.

Rich people are not better then poorer people, they are simply luckier.

Originally posted by BackFire
Of course they have a duty, it's the same as everyone else. They shouldn't have to do MORE just because thy're successful, THAT isn't their responsibility. Their responsibility is the same as everyone elses.

Yes they should, for the simply fact that they can do it without suffering. Living in a society means you sometimes have to suck it up and help out when you can.

Originally posted by Bardock42
They get more money because their service is more valued. Whether they are able to pull in business deals with foreign corporations, play enjoyable basketball or invented pocketknifes.

They provide something lots of people want and need. And they do it good or there would be others to do it (in theory). But generally...the person that works at Walmart (and I am not saying there is anything wrong with it) just isn't as important to society as the person that knows where to open Walmarts, how to negotiate with farmers and how to do the logistiscs....

Example: - A labor and delivery nurse is not as important to a society as an NBA player because of money?

Originally posted by Starhawk
LOL it's logic like that which caused the french and russian revolutions.

Rich people are not better then poorer people, they are simply luckier.

Hahahahaha

**** you.

**** you.

You should be more grateful to the people that provide you with all you have. I am sure you love your nurses and fireman and they are important...but, there is a reason why they are not in charge of multi-million dollar companies that provide you with cheap and good food and other goods.

The reason is cause they can't. They don't have the ability.

Originally posted by chithappens
Example: - A labor and delivery nurse is not as important to a society as an NBA player because of money?

They are less valued. Not less important necessarily.

Originally posted by Starhawk
Yes they should, for the simply fact that they can do it without suffering. Living in a society means you sometimes have to suck it up and help out when you can.

They DO help out, just the same as everyone else.

Most rich people help out moreso anyways, as bardock says, but providing goods and services that many people want and need, they shouldn't be obligated to give their money away, too.

That's ridiculous.

Originally posted by Starhawk
Yes they should, for the simply fact that they can do it without suffering. Living in a society means you sometimes have to suck it up and help out when you can.

But apparently only if you are competent and able to produce value.

Originally posted by Bardock42
Hahahahaha

**** you.

**** you.

You should be more grateful to the people that provide you with all you have. I am sure you love your nurses and fireman and they are important...but, there is a reason why they are not in charge of multi-million dollar companies that provide you with cheap and good food and other goods.

The reason is cause they can't. They don't have the ability.

So you are not head of a multi-million dollar company why?

Just want to be sure I follow your logic correctly...

Originally posted by Bardock42
They are less valued. Not less important necessarily.

Are you saying this is "how it should be" or "how it is" or both?

Originally posted by Starhawk
LOL it's logic like that which caused the french and russian revolutions.

Rich people are not better then poorer people, they are simply luckier.

This, right here, it's bullshit.

Luck rarely has something to do with it. Most wealthy people are where they are because they worked their ass off, and now are being rewarded.