Originally posted by chithappens
So you are not head of a multi-million dollar company why?Just want to be sure I follow your logic correctly...
I would say because I am not good enough. I wouldn't deny there is a lot of corruption, and there is lots wrong with the system. But I am not arrogant enough to pretend that in my situation I would be able to lead such a corporation sufficently. Now, work in a lamp factory...I could do that.
Originally posted by BackFire
This, right here, it's bullshit.Luck rarely has something to do with it. Most wealthy people are where they are because they worked their ass off, and now are being rewarded.
Now I call bullshit.
Show me a stat for "Most wealthy people are where they are because they worked their ass off, and now are being rewarded."
Originally posted by BackFire
This, right here, it's bullshit.Luck rarely has something to do with it. Most wealthy people are where they are because they worked their ass off, and now are being rewarded.
No, most of them are where they are cause their parents paid for top notch schools and they didn't have to work for any of it. Then they go out to find jobs and because their parents are well connected they have an easy time doing that too. I know people who have genius level intellect that work 2 jobs and still can't afford university so please don't try to say something like that.
Stat? It's called simple common sense.
You think they were just walking down the street one day, and some guy came up to them and said "HEY! Want a few million bucks? Here you go, oh here's another 10 million too!". No, they worked hard, went to school, had a brilliant idea that other people were willing to pay for, etc. Most started at the bottom and worked their way up. They had ambition and dedication.
Of course, the rich people, like Paris Hilton, who WERE lucky and born into a wealthy family exist, but they are in the minority.
Originally posted by Starhawk
No, most of them are where they are cause their parents paid for top notch schools and they didn't have to work for any of it. Then they go out to find jobs and because their parents are well connected they have an easy time doing that too. I know people who have genius level intellect that work 2 jobs and still can't afford university so please don't try to say something like that.
Even if that's true, which it really isn't. Does that mean that they don't deserve it?
CEO's of multi million or billion dollar corporations deserve their jobs, otherwise they wouldn't have them. They aren't stupid and they make millions because of it. Most rich people are still so called "new rich" they worked for what they got, and they deserve it.
Of course there are exceptions and sure many of them may be arrogant pricks but they still worked hard for it.
Besides if people are really that smart they can ussually get scholarships or something like that. It's just a matter of looking in the right direction, not to mention that if your brilliant it's ussually not that hard to get a job at a company willing to pay for your education... You just have to prove your that good, and if they really are geniuses like you say that shouldn't be to difficult.
You mean the one with a bunch of nonsense?
I read that already. What's the point?
Rich people are rich because their parents gave them help, they still had to work hard to get to that point. You think going to a rich school is easy? They still have to have dedication to pass the classes and such.
Just because some poor people don't have the means to go to school right off the bat means nothing, there are community colleges that are relatively cheap, most anyone can afford. Chances are, whatever problems they have that are stopping them from going to school is a result of their own poor choices in life anyways, like having too many kids and such.
Again, it isn't up to rich people to pay for those mistakes just because they have money.
Originally posted by Fishy
Even if that's true, which it really isn't. Does that mean that they don't deserve it?CEO's of multi million or billion dollar corporations deserve their jobs, otherwise they wouldn't have them. They aren't stupid and they make millions because of it. Most rich people are still so called "new rich" they worked for what they got, and they deserve it.
Of course there are exceptions and sure many of them may be arrogant pricks but still most of them worked hard for it.
No most of them DO NOT earn it, most of them are handed it to them by their parents. They get jobs from their parents or from friends of their parents. The greed of humanity is probably it's most disgusting feature.
Originally posted by chithappens
Currently I am getting a Japanese major, English major with an Education minor. This shit ain't easy and I'm working as hard as anyone.So since I choose majors that will not offer loads of cash I am devalued?
Of course not, but you will have no right to complain if you don't have as much money as you theoretically could, since you chose majors that offer less of a monitary gain.
Originally posted by BackFire
You mean the one with a bunch of nonsense?I read that already. What's the point?
Rich people are rich because their parents gave them help, they still had to work hard to get to that point. You think going to a rich school is easy? They still have to have dedication to pass the classes and such.
Just because some poor people don't have the means to go to school right off the bat means nothing, there are community colleges that are relatively cheap, most anyone can afford. Chances are, whatever problems they have that are stopping them from going to school is a result of their own poor choices in life anyways, like having too many kids and such.
Again, it isn't up to rich people to pay for those mistakes just because they have money.
Yes it is easy, if their grades slip their parents just donate money tot he university and they slip through.
And no community colleges are not as cheap as you think. And degrees you get from those are not enough to get you a decent paying job. And no, it is not always their choice, some are born into families that don't have the money to pay for them to go to university. As I said the example of my friend, he works 2 jobs and still doesn't make enough.
Originally posted by Starhawk
No most of them DO NOT earn it, most of them are handed it to them by their parents. They get jobs from their parents or from friends of their parents. The greed of humanity is probably it's most disgusting feature.
Bullshit,
Those parents still worked hard for it. Those children still work hard for it, after all they do need to get an education or do you think rich people just get a job as a CEO at some mayor company because their mother or father happens to be friends with somebody else.
A network always helps people that's just the way it is, but they still need to work for it, they still need to prove themselves. Besides money from your parents is always less then your parents had, because they will spend a lot of it as well, and simply won't get you the same life style as you had before. Unless of course the parents have billions in which case they will still pay more in taxes on an average day of shopping then you will in a month so they are still better for the economy.
Originally posted by Starhawk
No most of them DO NOT earn it, most of them are handed it to them by their parents. They get jobs from their parents or from friends of their parents. The greed of humanity is probably it's most disgusting feature.
Are you going to provide some hard evidence about the "most this" and "most that", or are you going to continue your ideological nonsense-like rants?
Originally posted by Starhawk
LOL if they had their way yes. I suppose old people who retire should just be offed in their system along with the disabled and poorer classes.
What? That is perfectly logical, why should somebody who offers services nobody cares about be paid as much as somebody that offers something everybody wants? Do you even understand how the economy works or are you really just living in an idealistic dream world where everybody could be paid the same, get an education a car a beautiful house with a swimming pool near the lake and a boat?
Originally posted by Fishy
Bullshit,Those parents still worked hard for it. Those children still work hard for it, after all they do need to get an education or do you think rich people just get a job as a CEO at some mayor company because their mother or father happens to be friends with somebody else.
A network always helps people that's just the way it is, but they still need to work for it, they still need to prove themselves. Besides money from your parents is always less then your parents had, because they will spend a lot of it as well, and simply won't get you the same life style as you had before. Unless of course the parents have billions in which case they will still pay more in taxes on an average day of shopping then you will in a month so they are still better for the economy.
Hard work does not equal capital.
Even the people you speak of will never make as much as Michael Jordan who played basketball, pimped people on his name, and now sits on a mountain of money.