Originally posted by The Great Galen
It's possible, thor has the versatility but doesn't have the speed. Inside the sun is where supes would be at his most potent, with a direct feed of continous solar energy Thor wouldn't haven't a chance...it's a situation that immensly favors supes.
I already addressed this earlier in this exact same thread I believe.
You are assuming, Superman has some idea what Thor is doing and Superman isn't exactly known for rushing head first and attacking beings he has never meet.
Not at all like Clark.
The same disadvantage is in play for Thor. He does not go to the extreme and has no idea what powers Clark.
If the two meet in the Sun, I highly doubt they would fight unless their is some plot involved where they have been lied to etc.
In that case, if Superman speed blitz Thor, he should win, as even Thor can only take so much of a beating from a seriously amped Superman.
You give Thor some knowledge on Superman, state that he is an evil master mind etc. and he could beat Superman in seconds, as he is versatile and powerful enough to accomplish this.
You give Clark the same conditions etc. and he to could speed blitz Thor, second after second with his power boost.
If the two meet, it would depend on who would try and end it.
Either way, like I said, this thread is who can beat a Sun-Dipped Superman in the Sun, and not who would win the majority.
Thor "can" win. That's enough for me.
Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
I already addressed this earlier in this exact same thread I believe.You are assuming, Superman has some idea what Thor is doing and Superman isn't exactly known for rushing head first and attacking beings he has never meet.
Not at all like Clark.
The same disadvantage is in play for Thor. He does not go to the extreme and has no idea what powers Clark.
If the two meet in the Sun, I highly doubt they would fight unless their is some plot involved where they have been lied to etc.
In that case, if Superman speed blitz Thor, he should win, as even Thor can only take so much of a beating from a seriously amped Superman.
You give Thor some knowledge on Superman, state that he is an evil master mind etc. and he could beat Superman in seconds, as he is versatile and powerful enough to accomplish this.
You give Clark the same conditions etc. and he to could speed blitz Thor, second after second with his power boost.
If the two meet, it would depend on who would try and end it.
Either way, like I said, this thread is who can beat a Sun-Dipped Superman in the Sun, and not who would win the majority.
Thor "can" win. That's enough for me.
Originally posted by xJLxKing
Superman will Speed Blitz Thor. He isn't just going to stand there and wait to see what he is going to use. Superman will surely attack all out.
Any ways you are right Thor will probably get a win or wins but I doubt the Majority. The strategy can work once, but I seriously soubt it can work more then one.
Do you read Superman comics at all?
What comics do you read, that tell you that Superman will "surely" go all out, and will "surely" speed blitz an opponent he has never meet before?
He has never done this, unless mind controlled etc. so why are you assuming he will do this now?
You're also assuming Superman has some knowledge of Thor and what he is capable of. Superman doesn't get bios on all of his opponents, and he has been in trouble in the past because he faced an opponent and he did not know what they could do to him until it was already done.
You are assuming to much. It's like me assuming that from the moment the fight starts, Thor will redirect all of the Sun's energy and all of Superman's Solar energy into a lethal blast against Superman, in turn wining.
That's me assuming to much as Thor has no idea who Superman is, and what his weakness is.
Like I said before, and like I probably will again today in the future, the winner of this fight would depend on the circumstances.
Either can win/dominate in the right situation.
Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Do you read Superman comics at all?What comics do you read, that tell you that Superman will "surely" go all out, and will "surely" speed blitz an opponent he has never meet before?
He has never done this, unless mind controlled etc. so why are you assuming he will do this now?
It's like me assuming that from the moment the fight starts, Thor will redirect all of the Sun's energy and all of Superman's Solar energy into a lethal blast against Superman, in turn wining.
That's me assuming to much as Thor has no idea who Superman is, and what his weakness is.
Like I said before, and like I probably will again today in the future, the winner of this fight would depend on the circumstances.
Either can win/dominate in the right situation.
Originally posted by xJLxKing
What? Characters should fight to the best of their abilities.
This wasn't stated by the thread starter.
What he said, was who can beat Superman in the Sun.
I said Thor and some other list of people.
Who would win the majority doesn't have any importance here. It isn't Thor vs. Superman in the Sun, it's who can beat Superman in the Sun, and Thor can under the right circumstances.
Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
This wasn't stated by the thread starter.What he said, was who can beat Superman in the Sun.
I said Thor and some other list of people.
Who would win the majority doesn't have any importance here. It isn't Thor vs. Superman in the Sun, it's who can beat Superman in the Sun, and Thor can under the right circumstances.
Originally posted by xJLxKing
The rules of KMC state the character should fight at the best of their ability. You are basically making Superman fight as a dummy in this fight just so Thor can get a shot to try and win
The rules also state that CIS is on unless otherwise stated. So no, Superman probably wouldn't do as you suggested he would.
Originally posted by xJLxKing
The rules of KMC state the character should fight at the best of their ability. You are basically making Superman fight as a dummy in this fight just so Thor can get a shot to try and win
KMC rules, ok then...
How am I making Superman fight like a dummy, when I am applying the same situation to Thor and I am taking into account both of their abilities and personalities?
You are portraying Superman and Thor completely out of character.
I am being fair.
You're acting like without some plot device etc. like Kryptonite, Thor cannot win, which is not the case.
Thor "can" win in this situation, and that's what the thread asked for. For a character who can win, win, not take the majority etc. Simple as that.
I could argue the majority if I wanted but it is pointless and I wouldn't believe myself either way.
guys, the point that is being made in the thread is something that is always going to happen on kmc. thor and superman are both sensible guys, a fight with them would rarely happen, as both are more likely to talk it out, and spend ages with no punches being thrown.
for the purposes of the forum, though, they have to fight. that's the whole point of the vs. so they aren't being rational about this, to a degree. superman is thor's enemy, thor is superman's. CIS is on, but both men want to beat their opponent.