Originally posted by Enyalus
That's a good feat. I don't know what you're referencing, though. Something back in the Pre-DOS days?
Actually, no...it's quite a bit after DOS.
Sundown- http://www.marvunapp.com/Appendix/sundowns.htm would be a candidate
Originally posted by golem370
Sundown- http://www.marvunapp.com/Appendix/sundowns.htm would be a candidate
lol....where did you find that - I totally forgot about Sundown....
He would beat the living HELL out of Superman in a sun battle.
Originally posted by The Great Galen
Supes using speed is nothing like Thor using the godblast, it is more like a character performing a BRF then anything. It's a aspect to his power but clearly if he was doing it in every comic the issues would be paper thin...hence why BFR isn't used that much by characters who can clearly do it. In a forum fight with full capcity I don't see why it wouldn't be viable, his movement speed is just another aspect to his powerset like HV. A lot of folks always like to argue with SS using his"cosmic awarness"or Thor using his hammer to BFR, why Supes would be barred from using speed is a bit confusing. In a comic fight you might have a point, by on a forum fight with these characters all fighting on there best day I don't see why he wouldn't use it.
The God Blast is as much part of Thor as speed is of Superman; it’s not related to Thor in a way as battle field removal. The God Blast and Super Speed are both part of their power sets true, but the two rarely, use these methods in combat situations. Like you stated it is mostly because comic books would be paper thin, but it’s part of how the characters fight.
If someone stated, that they are both using their abilities to their fullest then both are obvious valid methods.
Who would say other wise?
It’s just the two would more likely go hand to hand, and try to out muscle the opponent instead of say Clark using his speed to vibrate through every blow, or Thor using the God Blast to earn a quick knock out.
The two don’t usually resort to those methods. That’s all I’m stating but it seems that like Raoul explained, we are assuming that all the character’s here will be using their abilities to their fullest despite their normal method of fighting (It wasn’t in the thread creator’s description but I’m new here so, maybe it’s an unspoken rule, but I just thought unless stated other wise, a character’s own personality should be taken into account to at least an extent).
Either way, this conversation is a bit pointless and redundant.
The only thing the thread creator asked for was for us to list opponents who can win.
Would they win, is an entirely different question, but in the end, what matters is that under the correct circumstances, Thor can defeat Superman in the Sun.
Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
The God Blast is as much part of Thor as speed is of Superman; it’s not related to Thor in a way as battle field removal. The God Blast and Super Speed are both part of their power sets true, but the two rarely, use these methods in combat situations. Like you stated it is mostly because comic books would be paper thin, but it’s part of how the characters fight.If someone stated, that they are both using their abilities to their fullest then both are obvious valid methods.
Who would say other wise?
It’s just the two would more likely go hand to hand, and try to out muscle the opponent instead of say Clark using his speed to vibrate through every blow, or Thor using the God Blast to earn a quick knock out.
The two don’t usually resort to those methods. That’s all I’m stating but it seems that like Raoul explained, we are assuming that all the character’s here will be using their abilities to their fullest despite their normal method of fighting (It wasn’t in the thread creator’s description but I’m new here so, maybe it’s an unspoken rule, but I just thought unless stated other wise, a character’s own personality should be taken into account to at least an extent).
Either way, this conversation is a bit pointless and redundant.
The only thing the thread creator asked for was for us to list opponents who can win.
Would they win, is an entirely different question, but in the end, what matters is that under the correct circumstances, Thor can defeat Superman in the Sun.
And the answer is again... NO
Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
The God Blast is as much part of Thor as speed is of Superman; it’s not related to Thor in a way as battle field removal. The God Blast and Super Speed are both part of their power sets true, but the two rarely, use these methods in combat situations. Like you stated it is mostly because comic books would be paper thin, but it’s part of how the characters fight.If someone stated, that they are both using their abilities to their fullest then both are obvious valid methods.
Who would say other wise?
It’s just the two would more likely go hand to hand, and try to out muscle the opponent instead of say Clark using his speed to vibrate through every blow, or Thor using the God Blast to earn a quick knock out.
The two don’t usually resort to those methods. That’s all I’m stating but it seems that like Raoul explained, we are assuming that all the character’s here will be using their abilities to their fullest despite their normal method of fighting (It wasn’t in the thread creator’s description but I’m new here so, maybe it’s an unspoken rule, but I just thought unless stated other wise, a character’s own personality should be taken into account to at least an extent).
Either way, this conversation is a bit pointless and redundant.
The only thing the thread creator asked for was for us to list opponents who can win.
Would they win, is an entirely different question, but in the end, what matters is that under the correct circumstances, Thor can defeat Superman in the Sun.
Clark's speed is not a exotic power though, it's a attribute of his biology just like his strength/durability and senses. If it was the result of some external power source u might have a point, but it's just a physical aspect of him.....and it really isn't that rare either lol.
Originally posted by The Great Galen
Clark's speed is not a exotic power though, it's a attribute of his biology just like his strength/durability and senses. If it was the result of some external power source u might have a point, but it's just a physical aspect of him.....and it really isn't that rare either lol.
Well, the God Blast comes from Thor's own Godly Energies, so...
😄
I understand what point you are trying to express, but the God Blast, is as much part of Thor as speed is for Clark.
I mean based on the showings, the power of the God Blast, also depends on Thor's own health etc. It's part of his Godly Energies if I remember correctly.
My point is that, based on the way they fight, if you take into account their personalities, and they got into a brawl, the two would go hand to hand instead of using their other abilities.
It's actually pretty moronic to say the truth, but it happens to a great deal of character's to lengthen a fight if need be, but it's something that happens so much, it's part of their personality and how they fight.
Of course like Raoul said, we are not limiting them for the purpose of this thread, lol.
Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Wow, dude Thor can obviously beat Clark under the right circumstances. It's in his power set, for this situation.Who "would" the fight is different from who "can" win the fight.
Either way, you're posts are kind of useless.
Dude, 'in the sun' isn't one of those circumstances. He would be hard pressed to beat Clark outside of it in the first place.
Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Well, the God Blast comes from Thor's own Godly Energies, so...😄
I understand what point you are trying to express, but the God Blast, is as much part of Thor as speed is for Clark.
I mean based on the showings, the power of the God Blast, also depends on Thor's own health etc. It's part of his Godly Energies if I remember correctly.
My point is that, based on the way they fight, if you take into account their personalities, and they got into a brawl, the two would go hand to hand instead of using their other abilities.
It's actually pretty moronic to say the truth, but it happens to a great deal of character's to lengthen a fight if need be, but it's something that happens so much, it's part of their personality and how they fight.
Of course like Raoul said, we are not limiting them for the purpose of this thread, lol.
Well Supes has mentioned himself on a few occasions of his"ancient warrior skills" and speed is speed....it's like walking or running in that isn't something exotic condition but rather a natural function of biology. That's why I always got confused with peeps banned the use of"speedblitz"...I mean it's like banning the ability to walk or run or something.
Originally posted by Spire
Dude, 'in the sun' isn't one of those circumstances. He would be hard pressed to beat Clark outside of it in the first place.
Under the right circumstances dude.
Thor was able to redirect and channel all the energy and power of the Null Bomb on the spot.
It would only take him a few seconds, to redirect and re channel not only the energy of the Sun itself but the energy that Superman has in his own Solar cells, amplify it with magic, and redirect it at Clark, which would be a fatal blow or at least a serious knock out.
That would be under the right circumstances.
This would take only a few seconds at the most, but with his speed, Superman could do something about it, but this isn't about who "would" win the fight, but about who "can" win the fight.