AOTC Anakin Vs ESB Luke

Started by darthsith194 pages

Originally posted by Count Makashi
No, AOTC Kenobi is better then TPM Kenobi by some margin, this are his thoughts from Legacy of The Jedi, i thin( its the book where Dooku kills Lorian Nodd at the end)-

Count Dooku's fall has troubled us all,» Obi-Wan acknowledged. «Now we have a great and powerful enemy.» His thoughts turned to his battle with Dooku. He had never met such power in battle before. He had never come up against something that had completely overpowered him. Even meeting the Sith Lord who had killed Qui-Gon had not been the same. If onlyQui-Gon were alive, to give them insights into Dooku. Now Obi-Wan thought back and wondered why Qui-Gon had never
spoken of his Master. He would never know that, either.


AOTC Kenobi is better, but not by a lot and he is also slower than TPM Kenobi, unless you can provide a quote otherwise. That quote only proves that Dooku is above Maul. And since Maul was not at full strength when Kenobi fought him, that quote really doesn't mean anything.

My god guys, isn't it obvious that Anakin would take a metaphorical sh!t on Luke? Because I think so. I dont really see the point of debating this.

Yes, but you've always been biased against Luke, merely because of his baseball bat swing. Your opinion doesn't count in movie Luke threads.

Originally posted by darthsith19
Yes, but you've always been biased against Luke, merely because of his baseball bat swing. Your opinion doesn't count in movie Luke threads.

My opinion doesn't count? Who are you to say my opinion doesn't count? I'm not "bias" against movie Luke at all, I actually like movie Luke more then most of the other characters in the SW universe but I also reaise that he is weak and untrained when compared to almost everyone else.

I never said you didn't like Luke, merely pointing out that as far as fights go you are always against Luke solely for his baseball bat stance. If he is so "weak" then how come he owned Jabba's guards and even bested Vader? Don't say Vader was holding back because even if that's true, he was still trying to defend himself and failed to twice (the kick and the cutting off of his arm). And "untrained" doesn't mean shit, as Kyle with no training killed 7 Dark Jedi and Bane with < one year of training is already well beyond AOTC Anakin, who's received 10.

Don't say Vader was holding back
so just ignore how the fight actually happened and why Luke was able to do that.

and Bane with < one year of training is already well beyond AOTC Anakin, who's received 10.
How would that be possible, considering Anakin is the chosen one and progresses faster than any jedi ever, b/c of his midi- count.

Originally posted by kiddo44
so just ignore how the fight actually happened and why Luke was able to do that.

How would that be possible, considering Anakin is the chosen one and progresses faster than any jedi ever, b/c of his midi- count.

It could be possible because remember the Dark path always leads you faster to full power.

Originally posted by kiddo44
How would that be possible, considering Anakin is the chosen one and progresses faster than any jedi ever, b/c of his midi- count.

Anakin himself remarked during his first clash with Count Dooku that he is a slow learner. Although he is talented.

Originally posted by S_W_LeGenD
Anakin himself remarked in AOTC that he is a slow learner. Although he is talented.

you mean in the fight?? I think he was just saying that, George Lucas said on the AOTC DVD, Anakin was upset b/c he progressed faster than every other jedi and was still a padawan.

Originally posted by kiddo44
you mean in the fight?? I think he was just saying that, George Lucas said on the AOTC DVD, Anakin was upset b/c he progressed faster than every other jedi and was still a padawan.

Count Dooku: "I thought that you have learned your lesson?"

Anakin: "I am a slow learner."

Source: EP II - AOTC

Yes, but he only said that to counter wat Dooku told him. GL himself said Anakin progressed faster thn any other padawan in the Academy.

Also, I think Anakin was referring to his headstrong arrogance.

Originally posted by S_W_LeGenD
Count Dooku: [b]"I thought that you have learned your lesson?"

Anakin: "I am a slow learner."

Source: EP II - AOTC [/B]

Its called being a smartass...

It was supposed to be obvious...as is all the anti-Anakin fanboys around here.

Anakin takes this easily.

Originally posted by Burnt Pancakes
Also, I think Anakin was referring to his headstrong arrogance.

You're possibly right.

P.S. I know this has nothing to do with the topic, but since I am mexican I wish to know si tu eres tambien.

Unfortunately I don't speak much Spanish. My Mom is the Mexican side of my family, and her Mom didn't teach her Spanish because she was ashamed of her heritage 😬

Well, that's not right... it's like being ashamed of your country...

Anakin takes this easily.

Originally posted by Riverollv
Well, that's not right... it's like being ashamed of your country...

Indeed. I've never really forgiven my Grandmother for that...

What do you mean Cell couldn't take a shot from an ISD? Even in his most base form, he could rip an ISD to pieces.

Wait..what?

Yeah, even I say Anakin wins this one. He's more of an idiot than Luke but still more skilled.

Originally posted by kiddo44
you mean in the fight?? I think he was just saying that, George Lucas said on the AOTC DVD, Anakin was upset b/c he progressed faster than every other jedi and was still a padawan.

Yeah, but Bane wasn't a Jedi, was he? So that quote doesn't count.

Originally posted by Burnt Pancakes
Indeed. I've never really forgiven my Grandmother for that...

Yeah, well... that doesn't mean you can't learn spanish from somebody else so, if you ever want to know anything in spanish, just ask me. 😉

Originally posted by darthsith19
Yeah, but Bane wasn't a Jedi, was he? So that quote doesn't count.
Yeah but you were also arguing Luke,ROTJ, is more powerful than Anakin in the force, and he obviously had less training, and at best could progress as fast as Anakin, so how could he have gone past him? 10 years of formal training v what 4 years of whatever Luke did>