Grandpa taught Goku Martial Arts to the point where he was able to surpass a Shaolin Monk who dedicated his life to the arts.
Everyone else taught him how to get the most out of the skills his Grandpa taught him.
And pretty much every DB fight is raw skill. It's not like a Superman fight where the jokers lead off with their chins and take blows to the head, they actually parry and counterstrike every single blow accordingly with lightning quick reaction.
Originally posted by superkronick92
wait am i the only one who remembers, that ss4 goku(i know it's not canon but still) almost got killed by a flagpole. p.s I already started a 100+ page on goku vs superman in the superman section
As we are discussing the manga version, which has nothing to do with GT and dont have the low showings of the anime and has way better showings, these low feats dont work here. Akira Toriyama has also stated that the anime makes his characters look weak besides how they were portrayed in the manga.
Grandpa taught Goku Martial Arts to the point where he was able to surpass a Shaolin Monk who dedicated his life to the arts.
No he taught an alien who come from a high gravity planet who is naturally stronger, faster and more durable than a normal human who gets stronger after every injury to eventually surpass Krillin. That's not skill.
And parried and dodged all the punches and kicks and ki bombs, unlike Superman who just throws fists and absorbs blows with his face.
Right...
Originally posted by Galvaclaw
No he taught an alien who come from a high gravity planet who is naturally stronger, faster and more durable than a normal human who gets stronger after every injury to eventually surpass Krillin. That's not skill.Right...
Didnt you saw Goku and Krillins fight? They both showed impressive martial arts skills in their fight.
Goku wasn't an alien or above human standards until YEARS after the event in question.
And I hope you aren't trying to go scan for scan with examples of Superman leading with his chin versus him showing some skill.
Let me reiterate this one more time with emphasis
AND I HOPE YOU AREN'T TRYING TO GO SCAN FOR SCAN WITH EXAMPLES OF SUPERMAN LEADING WITH HIS CHIN VERSUS HIM SHOWING SOME SKILL
He got pissed off at Luthor becoming president and punched Jupiters moon in half. They gave an exact time frame that it took , using some mathematics we figured out he was moving 20x the speed of light.
I don't know wht but I find this hilarious. 😆
How come most of the argument against Goku is in regards to inconsistency of writing and who the writer was? Last time I checked Superman wasn't continually written by his originator. As a matter of fact, the family of his originator has continually sued DC over his use. Would that make only the original Sigel canon?
Goku's a better fighter, and the strength disparity isn't the deciding factor in the fight. Supes best bet is ranged attacks. Up close and personal Goku would school him. He's basically what Karate Kid would be if he had super speed, super strength, and energy attacks.
Originally posted by illadelph12
I don't know wht but I find this hilarious. 😆How come most of the argument against Goku is in regards to inconsistency of writing and who the writer was? Last time I checked Superman wasn't continually written by his originator. As a matter of fact, the family of his originator has continually sued DC over his use. Would that make only the original Sigel canon?
Goku's a better fighter, and the strength disparity isn't the deciding factor in the fight. Supes best bet is ranged attacks. Up close and personal Goku would school him. He's basically what Karate Kid would be if he had super speed, super strength, and energy attacks.
Yes, finally someone who understands it...
Check this, it shows his skill in slowmotion form of what they are now😄
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vbpj3w_-WJ8
Originally posted by illadelph12
I don't know wht but I find this hilarious. 😆How come most of the argument against Goku is in regards to inconsistency of writing and who the writer was? Last time I checked Superman wasn't continually written by his originator. As a matter of fact, the family of his originator has continually sued DC over his use. Would that make only the original Sigel canon?
Goku's a better fighter, and the strength disparity isn't the deciding factor in the fight. Supes best bet is ranged attacks. Up close and personal Goku would school him. He's basically what Karate Kid would be if he had super speed, super strength, and energy attacks.
I agree with you somewhat on the creator issue.
The strength thing is a completely different thing. The most skilled Martial Artist in the world would still get pwned! fighting an angry Elephant in a ring.
Goku has nowhere near Superman's durability, senses, or strength in a fight...and to be honest...from what I've seen of the anime and the Manga...his fighting skill isn't that impressive over Superman's to rate him that highly.
HV alone would get the job done.
Originally posted by Dangerous
Yeah😄Damn, dont you just hate those who racks down on DBZ all the time out of hate, not of logic?
Hate? I merely counter fanboyism with actual facts.
Did I ever claim that DBZ characters weren't bulletproof?
No.
So stop with the appeal to motive fallacies and debate properly.
Originally posted by Avalonofthewind
I agree with you somewhat on the creator issue.The strength thing is a completely different thing. The most skilled Martial Artist in the world would still get pwned! fighting an angry Elephant in a ring.
Not because of the elephants strenght... Because its too BIG. What will he do, kick itt legs? Doh...
Originally posted by Endless Mike
Hate? I merely counter fanboyism with actual facts.Did I ever claim that DBZ characters weren't bulletproof?
No.
So stop with the appeal to motive fallacies and debate properly.
You say I have fanboyism?
When Goku flies faster than a many-times-faster-than-light spaceship, its uncanon...
But everytime Supes does somethign impressive, its all accepted...
Yeah, I am the fanboy... Even through i am a girl.
But the spaceshipthing is not even debatable, as tis is the manga version we are discussing.
