Originally posted by GalacticStorm
Did any of those scans or the bio state that the omniverse was just Marvels? Simply acknowledging the fact that an omniverse exists in a Marvel comic doesnt mean that the omniverse is something specific to Marvel.
The Marvel Omniverse is specific to Marvel.
Originally posted by GalacticStorm
So what if Marvel characters have omniversal roles, or wield devices that can destroy [B]portions of the omniverse. [/B]
Devices that destroy ANY Universe in the Omniverse actually, but who's counting.
By your logic Roma and Merlyn can erase the DC Universe anytime they wish. 😂
Originally posted by GalacticStorm
Dc characters such as the Presence and others have been said to have omniversal rules as well. Doesnt mean that theres more than one omniverse.
Dude,
you're losing yourself trying to convince us that Roma can Destroy the DC Universe
with the flick of a switch.
I hope someone is reading this nonsense.
Originally posted by GalacticStorm
On top of that its canon that DC and Marvel exist within the same omniverse and that the DC characters just come from another multiverse.
You're gonna get in trouble with the DC fans pumping that bull shit.
So Roma and Merlyn can destroy any Universe in DC they wish? 😆
there is NOT ONE Universe that I cannot DESTROY at the Touch of a Switch"
That's the Celestial Nullifier, it belongs to Roma and Merlyn.
Originally posted by GalacticStorm
The point was made in the JLA Vs Avengers title.The two multiverses acknowledge being neighbours.
How can the DC & 616 Multiverse be neighbors in Continuity,
when the Brothers which BELONG to Marvel now are MegaverseS?
And it's ALL CANON, according to the OHOTMU v5 (2006)
"the Living Tribunal also helped fashion the twin Entities the BROTHERS, each of whom became the guardian of a different Megaverse, within the larger Omniverse but encompassing MORE than a single Multiverse"
LT manipulated these MegaverseS which are a collection of MultiverseS.
How the heck is DC and Marvel just a single Multiverse then,
like "someone" is proclaiming?
Originally posted by GalacticStorm
There is something outside the multiverse and that is the greater omniverse,
Actually Outside the Multiverse, there are MORE Marvel MultiverseS.
As I Proved.
Originally posted by GalacticStorm
All of your evidence just amounts to what we already know....there is an omniverse. None of it states that the omniverse is specific to Marvel.
The Marvel Omniverse is not specific to Marvel?
Then concede that Roma can Destroy any Universe in DC she wants?
But play innocent when I just proved to you,
that the Living Tribunal was holding Two MegaverseS in his Hand:
Oh, did I mention they were MegaverseS, which is a Double Collection MultiverseS?
Marvel evidently agrees:
OHOTMU v5 (2006)
"the Living Tribunal also helped fashion the twin Entities the BROTHERS, each of whom became the guardian of a different Megaverse, within the larger Omniverse but encompassing MORE than a single Multiverse"
Originally posted by GalacticStorm
You have ASSUMED that based on the fact that there are Marvel characters with omniversal roles. Thats not good enough.
🤨
It's not good enough that Roma can Destroy the DC Universe
according to your logic?
Right there and there you should say to yourself,
"that is stupid"
Originally posted by GalacticStorm
Show me where it is stated that Marvel has its own omniverseas do all the other labels.
Is this some kind of joke?
"from this venue,
the Guardian of Reality can view events on EVERY PLANE of the OMNIVERSE"
So again, are you saying Roma can Destroy the DC Universe?
Or are you saying that the Living Tribunal is the DC Judge?
"LT exist Simultaneously in All the MultiverseS"
Because I strongly disagree with that silliness.
I don't give a shit about "Other" labels btw.
Originally posted by GalacticStorm
Dc characters also have omniversal roles. That too doesnt equate to DC having its own specific omniverse.
I don't give a shit what DC does with their Cosmology.
Originally posted by GalacticStorm
The fact that its canon on both sides that each companies characters exist in multiverses next to each other
So again,
Roma can destroy DC?
LT manipulated DC?
Originally posted by GalacticStorm
Pulsars bio makes reference to the Green lantern she battled in the crossover:The comic itself made references to their realities being neighbouring.
Here Krona is travelling around the multiverses destroying realities from each:
The Marvel reality:
The Dc reality:
"Another universe occupying the same space but a different vibratory plane of reality"
Different multiverses, same omniverse.
Sweet.
So a Cosmic Cube at Full potential So can erase the entire DC Reality?:
according to your Logic? ... Yes
"The MultiverseS topple over like dominos ...
One Omniversal Plane implodes into nothingness ...
until the Only thing left of Reality ...
Is Nothing ..."
And Roma can Erase any Universe in the DC Reality.
And the LT is the Jude of the DC Reality.
And Wanda was going to collapse the entire DC Reality.
the Chaos Wave will continue to expand, perhaps to the ASCENTION itself"
And Havok can Erase the entire DC Reality as well:
"He will End everything ... the Multiverses ... the Past ... the Present ...
the Yet to Be ... will all be Destroyed"
Can anyone say ... OMNIVERSE!!!
That's actually the Goblin Queen and Post-Retcon Beyonder merged, (GQ in control)
how was the GQ going to Destroy the Omniverse?
By absorbing Havok's New found Power: (the Nexus of ALL Realities)
"The Nexus of Realities is not just a place ... it is a Force of Nature ...
the Fabric of that which binds ALL Reality together ...
the Nexus transported itself to your body"
Originally posted by GalacticStorm
So after all of that still nothing to prove that a Multi Death exists. Please show me an on panel statement or an official bio that states that to be the case or give up this fantasy.The SOLE reasoning behind your argument is that when Beyonder killed Death, the affects were said to be felt across the multiverse. That’s not good enough for you to make the assumption that there exists a previously unheard of Multi Death, a character which was never mentioned on panel before, at the time or ever since.
Secret Wars 2 took place within the 616 universe. It affected 616 characters.
616 Eternity has been referred to as a multiverse on panel before, because within his borders he contains many pocket dimensions.
In the Secret Wars 2 Saga the very same one that this Multi Death fantasy came from, Beyonder states that the universe he’s in the 616 universe where the story took place is actually a multiverse in its own right:
Like it or not, that provides a completely acceptable explanation for the comments from the abstracts about how Deaths destruction could be felt across the multiverse. The argument for there being a Multi Death is based not on an on panel statement referring to such a characters existence, not from an official bio referring to such a character but instead from a comment that can easily be explained away when you look at all the evidence available and take it all into consideration.
Beyonders comments from the same Saga can NOT be ignored, they offer a plausible explanation. My interpretation at least doesn’t involve the fabrication of a character never seen or heard of before or since the event officially. Don’t make up characters to justify your vision of the hierarchy. Except what stated plain as day to be the case. Once again show me where the entity Multi Death is officially and conclusively defined.
Observe yall,
how this huge essay has one thing in mind.
The scan provided is typical to say the least, it's half the story. (I'm not surprised)
The argument is, did Pre-retcon Beyonder kill an Aspect of Death (Universal)
or did he kill the Totality of Death? (Multiversal)
OK,
this is what his Argument is based on: (Please Read)
Originally posted by GalacticStorm
616 Eternity has been referred to as a multiverse on panel before,because within his borders he contains many pocket dimensions.
In the Secret Wars 2 Saga the very same one that this Multi Death fantasy came from,
Beyonder states that the universe he’s in the 616 universe where the story took place
is actually a multiverse in its own right:
What you will not be seeing from him is the NEXT Page,
Where Beyonder travels across this so called Reality 616 that is a "Multiverse,"
As you will see, 😂 wait, this is kinda funny yall,
after all that yip yap up top,
but anyway,
As you will see,
Beyonder travels past the Dark Dimension, which is Outside of 616.
Beyonder travels past the Microverse, located in a completely Different,
and SEPARATE Universe.
Beyonder even reaches the Crossroads a Nexus of Realities,
located in-between countless UniverseS.
Beyonder Traveled across the Actual Multiverse,
(nigh-Infinite amount of Whole UniverseS)
NOT some imaginary Reality 616 Multiverse.
Checkmate!
bottom
hang
Meh,
not that I needed to stomp that garbage with more proof,
because everyone knows the Truth, the Facts:
Pre-Retcon Beyonder erased the Totality of Death
(the Concept of Death in all the Multiverse)
Death is ERASED across The Entire Multiverse
You want to twist this to mean something else,
go right ahead. (There's no other possible argument)
And don't come back with your 2006 Death Bio, 😆
Everyone know Beyonder was RETCONNED back in 1989, (to a Universal threat)
you say Death was not retconned,
but actually,
that part of her existence was.
Originally posted by King Kandy
Well hold on just one second, it never says the brothers are Megaverses...It says they are the GAURDIANS of Megaverses.
Merlyn and Roma are the Omniversal Guardians.
Megaverses are part of the Omniverse.
These Brothers are a spin off of the the "Brothers" from Marvel vs DC,
as you know both Brothers embodied a Reality, same here.
"A Hand soon opening to allow TWO Brothers
to assume their pre-destined Roles as Architects of New Realities ...
They became their Realties, they created them,
as such they are "architects" aswell.
The LT manipulated the actual Brothers in their raw form.
Which is even more impressing,
how Two entites that can Create a Megaverse each,
are but Two Hand sized action figures in LT's Hand that the LT manipulates as he wishes. clap3
btw, The Brothers still embody those MegaverseS, even before they created them.
I bet they created those MegaverseS the same way Entropy Created a New Multiverse,
by exploding into them via a Big Bang.
Originally posted by King Kandy
But there's nothing definite. It could be what you're saying. But it could also mean that they merely design and guard their multiverses.
One way or another,
LT manipulated in his Hand, the power of Two MegaverseS.
Whether they created the MegaverseS to guard them
or they embodied them,
they would still need the Power to do either.
Originally posted by Mr Master
One way or another,LT manipulated in his Hand, the power of Two MegaverseS.
Whether they created the MegaverseS to guard them
or they embodied them,
they would still need the Power to do either.
And in any case, you can create something stronger then yourself.
Originally posted by King Kandy
Did it say they created them? There's a difference between being an architect and being a creator.And in any case, you can create something stronger then yourself.
Thats is for the religion forum:
Can God how is omnipotent great a being stronger then himself?
Welcome to the omnipotente paradox.
