is thier any one in dc as powerful as pretcon beyonder?

Originally posted by Mr Master
According to that issue,

the 616 Reality and DC's counter are a vibration away,

neighboring companies separated by specific vibrational patterns.

I don't see what's so silly about that. srug

Originally posted by Mr Master
According to that issue,

Roma can erase any Universe in DC,

do you agree?

She wouldn't have that authority in DC, [this doesn't change the principle behind neighboring companies]. 😬

Originally posted by Mr Master
And again, Eternity's Bio, NO mention of any kind of this "major" incident.

Originally posted by Juntai
It is also mentioned here in the scan.

However, I believe the story is meant to be canon,

Perhaps concerning the plot but not the theme.

Cause I can't accept that Roma can destroy DC.

Originally posted by Juntai
and I understand Marvel is considered to have it's own omniverse in previous writings we've seen,

I agree.

Originally posted by Juntai
however, being as the companies [Marvel/DC/Image, etc] acknowledge the existance of eachother and everything that goes with them,

They don't acknowledge eveything that happens,

they make a vague remark or two that alludes to a reference directed at one of they're company crossovers, but what happens in Marvel stays in Marvel, and I'm sure the same goes for DC.

Originally posted by Juntai
all of those realities would be part of a single omniverse, at least in terms of it's definition.

I disagree.

IMO, those are what I call Marvelk and DC Crossover Realities,

That only exist as long as the Arc does, then it's flushed down a toilet.

Originally posted by Juntai
Same as you claiming the X-O Manowar Iron Man thing as canon, then they accept that the multiverse of Acclaim Comics also exists. And yet, they don't own it, thus it can't be 'omni', if it's not all encompassing. And it isn't.

Actually both OmniverseS were destroyed, not just Marvel's, so it's not the same.

btw. X-O manowar,

was far more precise in considering Marvel Cosmology that Marvel and DC teamups.

Then again, Mark Gruenwald was the Editor.

Originally posted by Galan007
Yep,

neighboring companies separated by specific vibrational patterns.

I don't see what's so silly about that.

So you agree,

Marvel and DC is just a single Multiverse?

Originally posted by Galan007
No, she can destroy any Universe in Marvel.

Actually if they share the same Omniverse,

Roma can erase DC, simple and put.

"In ALL the OMNI-VERSE there is NOT ONE Universe that I cannot DESTROY at the Touch of a Switch"

No exceptions. 🙂

Originally posted by Galan007
She wouldn't have that authority in DC, [this doesn't change the principle behind neighboring companies].

If DC is in the Marvel Omniverse,

then Roma can erase DC.

Originally posted by Galan007
Again, Pulsar's Bio, there IS a mention of this "incident".

Negative,

Nothing in that Bio concerns, Eternity or Kismet, "the incident"

just a vague alluding to her (Pulsar's) specific invovement.

Becareful with the things you hear and see,

make sure you investigate thoroughly for yourself friend.

Originally posted by Mr Master
Actually if they share the same Omniverse,

Roma can erase DC, simple and put.

"In ALL the OMNI-VERSE there is NOT ONE Universe that I cannot DESTROY at the Touch of a Switch"

No exceptions. 🙂

Originally posted by Mr Master
Actually if they share the same Omniverse,

Roma can erase DC, simple and put.

Marvel has an "Omniverse" [which Roma can affect], but say the Marvel Omniverse is a bubble...

Why couldn't the "DC bubble" be right next to that? Neighboring companies. 🙂

You've gotta think outside the Marvel box for this one. 🙂

Originally posted by Mr Master
just a vague alluding to her specific invovement.

Originally posted by King Kandy
Simple answer: They were wrong.

That's what I been saying,

but it all it takes is one agenda inspired post and a freakin crusade can be born.

Originally posted by Mr Master
That's what I been saying,

but it all it takes is one agenda inspired post and a freakin crusade can be born.

Originally posted by Galan007
An Omniverse specific to Marvel? Sure.

Ok.

Originally posted by Galan007
Marvel has an "Omniverse" [which Roma can affect], but say the Marvel Omniverse is a bubble...

Why couldn't the "DC bubble" be right next to that? Neighboring companies.

That's not the way the crossover presented it,

according to it, DC and Marvel are a Universe away.

Besides,

In Marvel continuity, beyond the Omniverse is the Ascention.

Originally posted by Galan007
You've gotta think outside the Marvel box for this one.

I am,

it doesn't logically allow Marvel and DC to be a Single Universe apart,

sorry.

Originally posted by Galan007
Still there though. . .

Not concerning Eternity or Kismet though. 😬

Originally posted by King Kandy
No, no, I mean the Judge was wrong when he said it could erase any universe in the Omniverse.

"a CRYSTAL KEY is turned, a Chain Reaction Commenced"

"A Stricken UNIVERSE is placed FOREVER beyond Suffering"

"A WHOLE UNIVERSE! ... He just WIPED OUT a WHOLE UNIVERSE at the flick of a switch"

hum

Hyperbole is claiming something, and not backing it up..

Everyone know the CN can erase any Universe in the Omniverse.

I really don't wanna swarm so here's this:

Not an illusion:

"from this venue, the Guardian of Reality can view events on EVERY PLANE of the OMNIVERSE"

I suppose Saturnyne is wrong too:

"This Crystal embodies the LifeForce of your Home Dimension"

"By breaking it, that Entire Portion of the Omniverse CEASES TO EXIST"

Did they know that DC existed?

Originally posted by Mr Master
That's not the way the crossover presented it,

Originally posted by Mr Master
Besides,

In Marvel continuity, beyond the Omniverse is the Ascention.

Originally posted by Mr Master
I am,

it doesn't logically allow Marvel and DC to be a Single Universe apart,

sorry.

Originally posted by Mr Master
Not concerning Eternity or Kismet though.

Originally posted by King Kandy
Did they know that DC existed?

Who?

Originally posted by Galan007
But that makes it easier to perceive IMO.

It made more sense, what you said,

unfortunately you didn't part-take in the Writing. 🙁

Originally posted by Galan007
Just like beyond the DCU lies the Source Wall. . .

I'm not the one claiming DC and Marvel are vibrations away.

When I say the Ascention is beyond the Marvel Omniverse,

it's to further disagree with the idea of Marvel and DC as being vibrations away.

The Marvel Omniverse according to Official Marvel Handbook 2006:

"the REALMS with a Multiverse"

"Within the Omniverse, collections of associated REALMS from different Multiverses are referred to as Megaverses"

No mention of any kind of any neighboring alien Omniverse or Multiverse

or whatever else is cooked up in this JLA/Av garbage.

Originally posted by Galan007
A Universe away, but at the same time they're completely separate.

Again,

if outside the 616 Universe there are nigh-Infinite amount of UniverseS,

which make up a Multiverse,

and outside that we have a nigh-Infinite amound of MultiverseS,

and outside of that we have the Ascention,

where the hell is there room for DC to be a Single Universe away,

right next to Eternity "616" no less? 😂

Originally posted by Galan007
Don't see how what Bio the information is in matters.

Cause it doesn't mention Eternity or anything concerning the rest of the story,

it only mentions Pulsar's encounter with a so called "Emerald Guardian"

See, they can't even use the same/real Name,

and yet yall wanna believe it's Canon. 😬

Originally posted by Mr Master
It made more sense, what you said,

unfortunately you didn't part-take in the Writing. 🙁

I'm not the one claiming DC and Marvel are vibrations away.

When I say the Ascention is beyond the Marvel Omniverse,

it's to further disagree with the idea of Marvel and DC as being vibrations away.

The Marvel Omniverse according to Official Marvel Handbook 2006:

No mention of any kind of any neighboring alien Omniverse or Multiverse

or whatever else is cooked up in this JLA/Av garbage.

Again,

if outside the 616 Universe there are nigh-Infinite amount of UniverseS,

which make up a Multiverse,

and outside that we have a nigh-Infinite amound of MultiverseS,

and outside of that we have the Ascention,

where the hell is there room for DC to be Single Universe away?

Cause it doesn't mention Eternity or anything concerning the rest of the story,

it only mentions Pulsar's encounter with a so called "Emerald Guardian"

See, [B]they can't even use the same/real Name,

and yet yall wanna believe it's Canon. 😬 [/B]

This is the part where we start talking in circles for pages and pages...

So before that craziness even gets started I'm just going to stop, [I'm sure you of all people can understand that]. 😂

However, do you even know what lies beyond the Marvel Omniverse?

For all you know it could very well be a neighboring company... Just saying. 😬

Originally posted by Galan007
Meh,

This is the part where we start talking in circles for pages and pages...

Not really,

you're telling me to accept a Crossover's rendition of the Marvel Cosmology,

as an argument against Marvel established continuity On Panel and in Official Bios

concerning the workings of it's Realities,

and I'm just not going to do that.

If a Crossover complies with Continuity, I'll accept,

otherwise, it's garbage.

Like DC vs Marvel, like JLA/Avengers.

Originally posted by Galan007
So before that craziness even gets started I'm just going to stop, [I'm sure you of all people can understand that].

Cool,

I hope you're not offended, I'm sure I didn't insult you in anyway.

Nowadays, emotions run high with little fuel to ignite them. 🙂

(not you in particualr, but I have developed a weariness due to others)

Originally posted by Galan007
However, do you even know what lies beyond the Marvel Omniverse?

For all you know it could very well be a neighboring company... Just saying.

"The Chaos Wave will continue to expand, perhaps to the ASCENTION itself"

All I know is what Marvel tells me. 🙂

Originally posted by Mr Master
Not really,

you're telling me to accept a Crossover's rendition of the Marvel Cosmology,

Cool,

I hope you're not offended, I'm sure I didn't insult you in anyway.

Nowadays, emotions run high with little fuel to ignite them. 🙂

(not you in particualr, but I have developed a weariness due to others)

I merely stated my opinion on the matter.

You're a big boy, you can come to your own conclusions.

FYI, you didn't offend me in the slightest. 😄

Originally posted by Mr Master
"The Chaos Wave will continue to expand, perhaps to the Ascension itself"

All I know is what Marvel tells me. 🙂

No one knows what lies beyond the "Marvel Omniverse", for all we know this Ascension could very well be a neighboring company.

Not saying that's what it is, just saying that's what it could be. 🙂

Originally posted by Galan007
No one knows what lies beyond the "Marvel Omniverse", for all we know this Ascension could very well be a neighboring company.

I assume it's LA.

Originally posted by Galan007
I didn't tell you to accept anything.

I merely stated my opinion on the matter.

You're a big boy, you can come to your own conclusions.

Big boy says, the 616 Reality and DC's counter are not a vibration away.

It goes against Marvel continuity in every sense of the word.

The Marvel Cosmology is dictated by Marvel alone, not by DC and Marvel.

Originally posted by Galan007
Exactly.

No one knows what lies beyond the "Marvel Omniverse",

"Exactly?"

I posted that Scan to show you what's beyond the Marvel Omniverse.

Everyone knows what's beyond the Omniverse,

the Ascention.

Originally posted by Galan007
for all we know this Ascension could very well be a neighboring company.

Not saying that's what it is, just saying that's what it could be.

🤨

As you wish.

Originally posted by Mr Master
"Exactly?"

I posted that Scan to show you what's beyond the Marvel Omniverse.

Everyone knows what's beyond the Omniverse,

the Ascention.

OK now tell us what the Ascention is . . .

And do it without posting the scan for HouseOfM.

Originally posted by Mr Master
Big boy says, the 616 Reality and DC's counter are not a vibration away.

It goes against Marvel continuity in every sense of the word.

The Marvel Cosmology is dictated by Marvel alone, not by DC and Marvel.

Marvel dictates Marvel, and DC dictates DC... I never said otherwise. 😬

Furthermore, I'm not trying to say that Marvel and DC are part of the same company, just that they are neighbors occupying the same general space [but still completely separate].

Kind of like different pieces of a checkerboard...

Every piece is separate..

Every piece is neighboring..

And every piece occupies the same general "space", [the checkerboard itself].

See?

Originally posted by Mr Master
"Exactly?"

I posted that Scan to show you what's beyond the Marvel Omniverse.

Everyone knows what's beyond the Omniverse,

the Ascension.

Please tell me what the heck that is.

Do you know? 😕

Precisely!

Hence this statement:

Originally posted by Galan007
No one knows what lies beyond the "Marvel Omniverse", for all we know this Ascension could very well be a neighboring company.

Not saying that's what it is, just saying that's what it could be. 🙂

😉

Originally posted by Mr Master
🤨

As you wish.

Keep in mind that personal opinion isn't enough here.