yes s.g. is a joke.
stick or mantis for the fifth slot.
Cable has travelled to the past the future and the end of time and beatdown heavy hitters like Apoc The Skorrn & Gaunt w'o mutant tp tk or guns and ammo. [in Gaunt''s case [the most evil man in the history of the universe tm] they were evenly matched both had tp tk and techno organic technology]
The page your link sends me to I think is a bit out of order. To put Wolverine and Captain America above Shang Chi is a bit ridiculous, but having Dr. Strange and Bane over Lady Deathstrike is damn right criminal. In fact a lot of the lower portion is out of hand. Anyhow, I'd rank Karnak a lot higher as well, he has natural abilities that go along with his training. Also I always found Gamora to be over rated when it comes to hand to hand fighting. Shang Chi all the way!
Originally posted by MRasheed
5.) Bullseye
4.) Daredevil
3.) Iron Fist
2.) Cat
1.) Shang Chi
The Iron Fist has fought Cat twice. Once, the fight was a stalemate till Danny was distracted by Misty. Cat took note of this and took advantage. In their second encounter, Iron Fist says "I was distracted last time, but this time I'm focused" and continues to stomp the Cat.
Shang Chi and Danny were stalemating in their encounter, and Danny has far better chi control than Shang.
Originally posted by redhotrash
The page your link sends me to I think is a bit out of order. To put Wolverine and Captain America above Shang Chi is a bit ridiculous, but having Dr. Strange and Bane over Lady Deathstrike is damn right criminal. In fact a lot of the lower portion is out of hand. Anyhow, I'd rank Karnak a lot higher as well, he has natural abilities that go along with his training. Also I always found Gamora to be over rated when it comes to hand to hand fighting. Shang Chi all the way!
1. Wolverine's stomped Shang hand to hand.
2. Both Batroc and Zaran claimed that Captain America was an even better fighter than Shang Chi.
3. Not to mention the fact that Marvel agrees with us via the handbooks. 😬.
4. What the hell are you talking about? The listing in the Ranks for MAs thread has Captain America, Shang Chi, and Wolverine all in the same 'top tier.' Also, Doc Strange and Bane are both in the tier BELOW Lady Deathstrike....
Originally posted by xmarksthespot
[b]Current HierarchyCosmic Tier: (Transcendent Martial Artists)
Champion of the Universe, Gamora, Karate Kid, Mantis, ThanosUber Tier: (Unearthly Martial Artists)
Kirigi (DC), Moondragon, O-Sensei, Ogun, Snake-Eyes, StickTop Tier: ("Greatest Martial Artists"😉
Batgirl (Cassandra Cain), Batman, Bronze Tiger, Captain America, Connor Hawke, Constantine Drakon, Elektra, Iron Fist, Lady Shiva, Richard Dragon, Shang Chi, Shen Kuei (The Cat), Taskmaster, WolverineSecond Tier: (Master Martial Artists)
Agent X, Azrael, Black Canary, Black Panther, Black Widow, Bullseye, Cable, Daken, Daredevil, David Cain, Deadpool, Deathstroke, Donatello, Echo, Eric Killmonger, Gorgon (Tomi Shishido), Green Arrow, Grifter, Karnak, Lady Deathstrike, Leonardo, Michaelangelo, Midnight Sun, Natas, Nick Fury, Nightwing, Prometheus, Puck, Ra's al Ghul, Raphael, Ravager, Red Hood, Red Skull, Silver Samurai, Steel Serpent, Stone, Talia al Ghul, Twelve Brothers in Silk, Wildcat (Ted Grant), Winter Soldier, Wonder Woman, Vandal Savage, X-23Third Tier: (Highly Skilled Martial Artists)
Ares, Arsenal, Bane, Beta Ray Bill, Black Bolt, Black Knight (Dane Whitman), Blade, Blue Beetle (Ted Kord), Colleen Wing, Damian Wayne, Doctor Mid-Nite, Doctor Strange, Domino, Donna Troy, Hawkeye, Hercules, Huntress, Katana, Kingpin, Lady Vic, Midnighter, Mister America (Tex Thomson), Mister Terrific, Mockingbird, Moon Knight, Night Thrasher, Nightcrawler, Onyx, Psylocke, Punisher, The Question, Revanche, Robin (Tim Drake), Sabretooth, Shadowcat, Shatterstar, Shrike IV (Boone), Speedy (Mia Dearden), Spider-Woman (Jessica Drew), Stacy X, Terry McGinnis, Thor, US Agent, V, Wild Child, WongFourth Tier: (Trained Martial Artists)
Batgirl (Barbara Gordon), Batwoman, Black Cat, Blink, Blue Devil, Boom Boom, Cannonball, Carol Danvers, Catwoman, Colossus, Cyclops, Falcon, Gambit, Hawkgirl, Hawkman, Iron-Man, Jamie Madrox, Jubilee, Misty Knight, Mystique, She-Hulk, Starfire, Storm, Superman, Tarantula, Thing, ZaurielAccomplished Fighter: (Little formal training/Some Skill)
Apocalypse, Beast, Grace Choi, Hulk, Invisible Woman, Luke Cage, Monet St. Croix, Spider-Man, Strong Guy
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