Top 5 Best Marvel Martial Artists

Originally posted by Daredevil1
You need to put there IMO. Comparing Lobo to Shang is about as irrelevant as it gets.

"IMO" went without saying. What else was I going to give? Your opinion? My opinon is the only one I have to give. But in this case, my opinion on the Lobo fight happened to be the factual one.

And the Lobo crossover was VERY relevant. Wolverine defeating either of them in their own game is PIS.

Factoring out Powers, hormones/herbs/serums/implants etc & Focusing on Pure skill

Wolverine and Cap IMO rank amongst the top 50 characters in the present day Marvel multi-verse in martial arts skill. alongside T'Challa Elektra Taskmaster Mr X Shatterstar Agent X Deathbird etcetera etcetera

IMO the Top Ten in Skill alive in Present day Marvel are [2 places up for grabs]

in no particular order:
Stick
Thanos
Shang Chi
Gamora
Mantis
Askani'son
Mandarin
Champion

I can deal with that. That's the best list so far.

IMO. 😉

Iron Fist, Deathbird & Temugin are Contenders.

Hawkeye beat up Deathbird with one arm incapacitated. He kept kissing her when she got too close making her furious and she still couldn't do anything about it.

But I guess since then she must have taken the same Cosmic Super-Ninja 101 night classes that Logan took, huh?

scrubb Deathbird

Psylocke

My list:

This is on earth:
Wolverine
Captain America
Mr.x
Gorgon
Elektra

Best period (on earth):
Stick
Ogun

Who should be the best in the universe but dont use his skills (champion)

I know you all hate the fact that wolverine is listed as one of the best fighters on marvel earth next to captain america but he is. Wolverine has learned every martial arts on the planet, can the same be said for the kung fu master shang chi, no. What shang chi has learned wolverine has learned that plus interest.

Mrx has learned what shang chi knows plus interest. Dont hate on the fact that wolverine is the top martial artist on the planet. It is stated throughout marvel. It has always been like that and it will always be like that.

Shang chi skill wise isnt even close to wolverine. Dont dispute this with us, dispute it with marvel. Read all of wolverine bios. It will specifically tell you that he is the best martial artist or he is one of the best martial artist on the planet. It was also stated when mrx was looking for wolverine, mrx himself stated that he has heard of every martial artist on the planet and wolverine was quoted as being the best.

Im not fussing that shang chi isnt great, because he is but I think that daredevil is a better fighter than him. I think even deadpool is better. Deal with it. I have never heard anything from marvel even stating that he close to being the best. He dont need to be on the list because there are more that you can put above him.

And the Lobo crossover was VERY relevant. Wolverine defeating either of them in their own game is PIS.

Lobo agreed since nobody cares for it since it was voting.

Shang in your opinion so be it. 😉

Originally posted by carver9
For the people that dont believe that wolverine is one of the best martial artist on the planet and one of the greatest than read.
http://www.marveldatabase.com/James_Howlett

Am I missing something ?

Originally posted by carver9
For the people that dont believe that wolverine is one of the best martial artist on the planet and one of the greatest than read.
http://www.marveldatabase.com/James_Howlett

I'm reading Secret Avengers (2010) wherein the Green Mist/Prince of Orphans appears and since I never heard of him, I looked him up. He seems pretty bad-ass - so my question is, why doesn't he appear on any lists? I've put Immortal Iron Fist next on my To-Be-Read pile to find out more about him, since apparently he features quite a lot in there.

Came looking here on KMC and found this old thread, so I thought we could update it a bit.

Found a couple of sites with fairly recent (2016) lists of Marvel's top martial artists. Any thoughts? Any list you agree with here?

http://screenrant.com/marvel-comics-best-martial-artists-fighters/?view=all

1. SHANG CHI
2. IRON FIST
3. CAPTAIN AMERICA (STEVE ROGERS)
4. TASKMASTER
5. KARNAK
6. THE CAT
7. WOLVERINE
8. ELEKTRA
9. BLACK PANTHER
10. GAMORA
11. BATROC
12. X-23
13. MOON KNIGHT
14. ECHO
15. HAWKEYE

https://www.comicbookmovie.com/comics/marvel_comics/top-12-best-hand-to-hand-fighters-in-marvel-revised-a132493

1. Iron Fist
2. Shang Chi
3. Taskmaster
4. Wolverine
5. Black Panther
6. Captain America
7. Stick
8. Daredevil
9. Elektra
10. Black Widow
11. Moon Knight
12. Silver Sable

http://www.toylabs.us/2016/12/top-10-fighters-in-marvel-universe.html

(This list confuses me, because the author claims to exclude people with superpowers, like Deadpool and Daredevil - but then he includes Wolverine!)

1) Shang-Chi
2) Iron Fist
3) Fat Cobra
4) Moon Dragon
5) Black Panther (T'Challa)
6) Steel Serpent (Davos)
7) Hawkeye
8) Ghost Maker
9) Bullseye
10) Wolverine

It's very difficult to consider characters with superhuman stats because we do not know to what extent their powers contribute to winning a h2h fight against a human. Imo, it would contribute too much (durability, speed, reflexes, strength, etc.). That's why I won't consider them.

It's clear that Shang-Chi, Iron Fist, and Taskmaster should be in the top 5.
Its debatable which other two would join them.

Ranking by skill these are the top 5 on Earth

Ironfist
Shang Chi
Daredevil
Black Panther
Cap

of course not counting senseis and rarely appearing masters who normally just trained others

Originally posted by Supermutant
Ranking by skill these are the top 5 on Earth

Ironfist
Shang Chi
Daredevil
Black Panther
Cap

of course not counting senseis and rarely appearing masters who normally just trained others

Originally posted by h1a8
Daredevil doesn't count because of his radar sense. BP and Cap are artificially enhanced.

Originally posted by psycho gundam
lol?

Discounting a character cause they have powers takes nothing away from their martial arts skills. It's not logical and not in the rules the thread starter confined the criteria to, unless you have the ability travel back to 2007, but then time travel powers discount you from this thread

Wouldn't Ganymede rank up there and Midnight Sun?