AOTC Mace vs AOTC Dooku

Started by Kurk17 pages

Vaapad not effective against a calm and collected sith like Dooku

precise Makashi finds an opening in the wild arcs of Vaapad and Dooku takes the kill

Windy, easily.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Windy, easily.

I'm ok with your opinion. Windu could win, but not easily.

Originally posted by EmperorSidious2
I'm ok with your opinion. Windu could win, but not easily.
Easily. He's on another level.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Easily. He's on another level.

Based on what. Windu hasn't done anything that puts him on a whole new level than Dooku. Windu had an amp that he would never get against anyone else against Sidious. Also Vaapad has never worked agaisnt any other opponent so I'm not seeing how this is easy.

Originally posted by EmperorSidious2
Based on what. Windu hasn't done anything that puts him on a whole new level than Dooku. Windu had an amp that he would never get against anyone else against Sidious. Also Vaapad has never worked agaisnt any other opponent so I'm not seeing how this is easy.
Beat Sidious. Dooku can't. Nuff said.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Beat Sidious. Dooku can't. Nuff said.
No, "Nuff isn't said". It's clear Windu's Vaapad has a clear advantage over Sidious as it turns his rage against him but this simply wouldn't be the case against Dooku. Not saying Dooku could ever beat Sidious outside of a pure Makashi duel, but Dooku clearly isn't a raging sith and doesn't let his emotions get the best of him hence rendering Vaapad useless.

What do we know about Mace Windu at this point of time? What are his feats? Other than beheading Jango Fett lol

Originally posted by quanchi112
Beat Sidious. Dooku can't. Nuff said.

With an amp that he would never get again. Try again.

Originally posted by EmperorSidious2
With an amp that he would never get again. Try again.

Originally posted by Kurk
No, "Nuff isn't said". It's clear Windu's Vaapad has a clear advantage over Sidious as it turns his rage against him but this simply wouldn't be the case against Dooku. Not saying Dooku could ever beat Sidious outside of a pure Makashi duel, but Dooku clearly isn't a raging sith and doesn't let his emotions get the best of him hence rendering Vaapad useless.
Dooku uses the dark side and rage as well. Dooku can't beat Sidious but Windu can. Undeniable.

Originally posted by EmperorSidious2
With an amp that he would never get again. Try again.
You don't know what amp means. Dooku was bested by Anakin, Vos, and would be crushed by Sidious. Nuff said.

Originally posted by quanchi112
You don't know what amp means. Dooku was bested by Anakin, Vos, and would be crushed by Sidious. Nuff said.

Ad hominem fallacy for the first part. Rest is irrelevant. What is relevant is that Mace received a boost that he will never receive again. It's not like Dooku gives off enough Dark energy to feed on.

Originally posted by EmperorSidious2
Ad hominem fallacy for the first part. Rest is irrelevant. What is relevant is that Mace received a boost that he will never receive again. It's not like Dooku gives off enough Dark energy to feed on.
So a Sith guy doesn't fight off emotions and fights like a Jedi ? 😂

Windu wins. Anakin crushed him.

Originally posted by quanchi112
So a Sith guy doesn't fight off emotions and fights like a Jedi ? 😂

Windu wins. Anakin crushed him.

He uses his emotions differently. He doesn't rage or go out of control. He's always calm cool and collected.

Opinion which I'm fine with just not easily. Anakin is not in this thread and is irrelevant.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Easily. He's on another level.

I'm just curious, is the Sidious fight the only feat you are going to cite to prove Windu's superiority?

Because going by The Clone Wars tv show (which is canon), Dooku has better feats than Mace.

Originally posted by EmperorSidious2
He uses his emotions differently. He doesn't rage or go out of control. He's always calm cool and collected.

Opinion which I'm fine with just not easily. Anakin is not in this thread and is irrelevant.

That doesn't mean he doesn't use his anger. People can express anger in different ways.

It's relevant to Dooku.

Originally posted by quanchi112
That doesn't mean he doesn't use his anger. People can express anger in different ways.

It's relevant to Dooku.

Exactly and his way is calm cool and collected. He doesn't display anger, and Windu won't have much if any to feed off of.

No it's not as that failure has nothing to do with battle.

Originally posted by Trocity
I'm just curious, is the Sidious fight the only feat you are going to cite to prove Windu's superiority?

Because going by The Clone Wars tv show (which is canon), Dooku has better feats than Mace.

Took on Talzin one on one. Killed Jango Fett and looked vastly superior than Kenobi in direct comparison to Kenobi.

Better feats my ass. Windu bested his master. No one says Dooku would beat Sidious. Quality over quantity.

You could have just said "Yes."

And Dooku wins here.