Originally posted by Priest
Thor could do it without help, I think they just threw Bill in there to make is dramatic.
Asgard could be protrayed as more than buildings, it used to be its own dimention..The weight of current Asgard could be much more than it looks imo.
That is exactly why I think Bill was used since Thor already lifted Asgard on his own with ease.
Originally posted by PriestWhat bugs me is the comparison though. Thor is portrated maybe a little bit more powerful than BRB when he should be a league above him.
Thor could do it without help, I think they just threw Bill in there to make is dramatic.
Asgard could be protrayed as more than buildings, it used to be its own dimention..The weight of current Asgard could be much more than it looks imo.
I liked those last scans. The art was phenomenal and I liked Thor's character. However I agree about The final part looking somewhat weak, but its not like it matters that much since Thor did lift Asgard without even using his hands before. Besides I still think Thor is not up to full power after bringing back Asgard and the other gods, taking on the Destroyer and all the other shit he has been doing.
Here is to more great characterization and art.
Originally posted by HueyFreeman
What bugs me is the comparison though. Thor is portrated maybe a little bit more powerful than BRB when he should be a league above him.
That's the thing, in his own series Oliver Copiel's writing him as he should be. His characterization is written perfectly, his power level is how it should be, etc . He appears to be head and shoulders above those around him. No, we haven't seen a plethora of feats, but I'm sure that'll come sometime in the near future. Every other writer is portraying Thor as if he never left. As if he's the same character now that he was before his slumber. This isn't the case. Even more, they're writing him as if he doesn't posses the Odin power. I don't understand it.
Originally posted by Priest
Thor could do it without help, I think they just threw Bill in there to make is dramatic.
Asgard could be protrayed as more than buildings, it used to be its own dimention..The weight of current Asgard could be much more than it looks imo.
All though he could do it by himself. It was still pretty cool looking with them both there
WEll gues si did some math on Thors strength showing hope you guys like this one.
Thor weighs 640pds. at 6.6
Well we will round down to 100pds per foot.
The midgarud sepherent is long enough to touch it tail around earth.
earth is 7926miles around.
5280 feet per mile.
Thats would make it 41849280 feet long.
when thor fought the seph. it had no probelm fiting thor inside its mouth and is much wider then thor so this makes him heavy per foot then thor. but we will use thor as a base model for weight.
Which means it should way more. per foot
so it is 48149280 feet time 100 pounds.
thats 4814928000 pounds which divided by 2000 which is equal to one ton
2000pds.=1 ton
makes thor lifting 2092464 tons.
Originally posted by DarkOdin
WEll gues si did some math on Thors strength showing hope you guys like this one.Thor weighs 640pds. at 6.6
Well we will round down to 100pds per foot.
The midgarud sepherent is long enough to touch it tail around earth.
earth is 7926miles around.
5280 feet per mile.
Thats would make it 41849280 feet long.
when thor fought the seph. it had no probelm fiting thor inside its mouth and is much wider then thor so this makes him heavy per foot then thor. but we will use thor as a base model for weight.
Which means it should way more. per foot
so it is 48149280 feet time 100 pounds.
thats 4814928000 pounds which divided by 2000 which is equal to one ton
2000pds.=1 ton
makes thor lifting 2092464 tons.
Just to add something, The serpent was able to wrap itself round earth more than once. Also thor was pulling against the force of the serpent itself and not just its dead weight making the feat even more impressive.
Originally posted by Endless Mike
Your math is ignoring the third and second dimensions - mass and weight are calculated in cubic units, not by length. Your numbers are way too low because of this.
I stated that they were low.
i used Thor's mass rounded down.
Thor's mass by foot is far less the the serphant.
Thats what i based it on as i stated.
Which only goes to show how great of a feat it is b/c i downplayed the numbers and they are still jaw dropping.
I did not ingnore anything i say i based it off of thor's his mass. YOu missed it. PLease read more carefully before you make a statement.
there is no way to figrue out how much the serphant weighs.
To many factors we could not find out using Thor' mass which is by less then that of the serphant. Is the only wieght to do it. Thor height and weight are known and he has fought the Sperhant and it was clear he was much smaller not only in length but in mass as shown when he is in it mouth.
So you can get an idea judging from the picture it hass 3 times the mass of Thor at least so since my math is son wroung you can do it.
Well I'll try.
I couldn't find information on the average density of a snake, but I did find information on the average density of a human, which is around the same as water. Since they're both animals using roughly the same proportions of elements and components (bones, skin, organs, etc.) I think this would be a good estimate.
Density of water is 1000 kg/m^3 Source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Water_(molecule)
I did some scaling in here
http://img231.imageshack.us/img231/4516/serpentscalewn0.jpg
and you can see that the earth is 171 pixels across while the serpent is 585 pixels. Considering that the serpent is coiled a bit and not stretched out straight, we should extend its length by a bit, say, 20%, making it 702 pixels long in total. Since I measured the earth horizontally, we can use the equatorial radius on this page:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Earth
and multiply it by 2 to get the diamater. So 171 pixels = 12,756.2 kilometers, meaning 1 pixel = around 74.6 kilometers. This makes the length of the serpent around 52,367.6 km
Now for the width: The serpent's body looks to be roughly cylindrical, so the width should be the same as the height (or at least close enough to not make a real difference)
Now in this picture:
http://img353.imageshack.us/img353/8642/serpentscale1ao9.jpg
the sides of the earth are obscured so the length might be a little inaccurate, but my closest measurement gives the earth at 392 pixels across, measured horizontally. The serpent's body is 63 pixels wide. Using the same scaling as before, this makes the serpent's body 2,050.1 km wide. So to determine the volume, we should use the formula for the volume of a cylinder:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cylinder_(geometry)
V = pi*r^2*h
The radius would be half of the serpent's width, so V = pi*1025.05^2*52,367.6, or 172,863,237,800 km^3
There are a billion cubic meters in one cubic kilometer, which means that the serpent's volume is 172,863,237,800,000,000,000 cubic meters - multiply that by 1000 kg per cubic meter and we get 172,863,237,800,000,000,000,000 kilograms.
This is about 1/34556.8th of the mass of the earth.
However, as noted above, it would have been significantly more since Thor was pulling against the Serpent's own strength as well. I don't know how you would calculate that, though.
Originally posted by Endless Mike
Well I'll try.I couldn't find information on the average density of a snake, but I did find information on the average density of a human, which is around the same as water. Since they're both animals using roughly the same proportions of elements and components (bones, skin, organs, etc.) I think this would be a good estimate.
Density of water is 1000 kg/m^3 Source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Water_(molecule)
I did some scaling in here
http://img231.imageshack.us/img231/4516/serpentscalewn0.jpg
and you can see that the earth is 171 pixels across while the serpent is 585 pixels. Considering that the serpent is coiled a bit and not stretched out straight, we should extend its length by a bit, say, 20%, making it 702 pixels long in total. Since I measured the earth horizontally, we can use the equatorial radius on this page:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Earth
and multiply it by 2 to get the diamater. So 171 pixels = 12,756.2 kilometers, meaning 1 pixel = around 74.6 kilometers. This makes the length of the serpent around 52,367.6 km
Now for the width: The serpent's body looks to be roughly cylindrical, so the width should be the same as the height (or at least close enough to not make a real difference)
Now in this picture:
http://img353.imageshack.us/img353/8642/serpentscale1ao9.jpg
the sides of the earth are obscured so the length might be a little inaccurate, but my closest measurement gives the earth at 392 pixels across, measured horizontally. The serpent's body is 63 pixels wide. Using the same scaling as before, this makes the serpent's body 2,050.1 km wide. So to determine the volume, we should use the formula for the volume of a cylinder:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cylinder_(geometry)
V = pi*r^2*h
The radius would be half of the serpent's width, so V = pi*1025.05^2*52,367.6, or 172,863,237,800 km^3
There are a billion cubic meters in one cubic kilometer, which means that the serpent's volume is 172,863,237,800,000,000,000 cubic meters - multiply that by 1000 kg per cubic meter and we get 172,863,237,800,000,000,000,000 kilograms.
This is about 1/34556.8th of the mass of the earth.
However, as noted above, it would have been significantly more since Thor was pulling against the Serpent's own strength as well. I don't know how you would calculate that, though.
This is much more detailed then mine. but you are using the average denisty of a snake and human.
which is no where near the density of Thor or the serphant.
Thats why i used Thor as a base model for the serphant. His Bone, Skin and muscle are far more dense the a normal humans same goes with the serphant.
there is no way to truly calculate the feat either way both nmbers are far below what they should be.