Jenny Sparks vs Storm

Started by Rutog9814 pages
Originally posted by Swanky-Tuna
It looks like his shield continued to dissipate after he stuck his hand through it. As if the comic panels were supposed to represent single instances in a moving scene.

Not so. Magneto allowed a small opening for his hand to get through. When the lightning was not working, Storm TOLD Magneto she was going to use a different power from the lightning before she did her tornado. Stop reaching.

To the others:

Also, trying to say from the point Ororo left New Orleans to the point where Emma was ejected from the mansion was hours is crazy. Most of the story with Emma was in her astral form which means those things were being done at the speed of thought. This is really silly.

Anyway, your argument does not hold water considering she lifted the skyscraper, redirected Sienna Blaze and smashed Magneto's force-field. I notice how in your posts of the Storm/Magneto fight you INTENTIONALLY left out the next panel where Magneto states that her winds are placing a great strain on his magnetic powers. That comment as well weakens your argument.

Originally posted by Rutog98
Not so. Magneto allowed a small opening for his hand to get through. When the lightning was not working, Storm TOLD Magneto she was going to use a different power from the lightning before she did her tornado. Stop reaching.

All I'm saying is it looks like he's sucking his shield in. If he can move friggen asteroids through space I don't see why a tornado on any level would do jack to his shields. Magneto must of been having a really off day.

Originally posted by Swanky-Tuna
All I'm saying is it looks like he's sucking his shield in. If he can move friggen asteroids through space I don't see why a tornado on any level would do jack to his shields. Magneto must of been having a really off day.

Space has no gravity. If he can move his base here on Earth, it would be much easier to pull that in space as there is zero gravity.

Storm's winds can beat Magneto as she redirected Sienna Blaze. I would also argue her winds being able to level a mountain, but since Magneto can do that as well, he can probably deflect that (with a struggle).

Sienna's blasts>>>Magneto

Originally posted by Rutog98
Space has no gravity. If he can move his base here on Earth, it would be much easier to pull that in space as there is zero gravity.

Yeah, it's easier but it's still a daunting task. One I would put above a silly tornado, depending on who's drawing the asteroid that day.

I can't comment on this Siena person as I don't really know what she can do. Judging from the wiki, she looks like she might be more powerful than Magneto in a few respects but at the cost of not controlling pretty much anything as Magneto usually does.

combined avengers assault (featuring thor) >>>>>>sienna blaze.

but let's not talk about how unbelievably easily magneto would whoop storm's ass. let's talk about how easily jenny sparks would.

^Explain

Originally posted by 2damnloud
^Explain

Okay.

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is >

Simple enough math?

OKAY

If you ask me, from what I read about Siena combined with the fact that Storm's wind pressure per square inch and suction from her vortex had Mags gasping for air......

Siena Blaze>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Magneto.

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Originally posted by 2damnloud
OKAY

If you ask me, from what I read about Siena

Siena Blaze>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Magneto.

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You need to read more about Magneto. Sienna isn't that powerful.

and nobody would ask you, considering your major Storm bias. Was it you or Weather God who said Storm could take Thor?

It said on Wiki that her powers "inadvertently" can destroy the earth(ecosystem) just by USING them.

Storm taps into the elctromagnetic, the electrical, the Ionosphere, tempereature etc to effect weather. Her powers/control over said forces can be isolated and thus she has a WIDE range of things she can do/has done.

Mags only controls the electromagnetic spectrum.

The right amount of heat can DESTROY magnetism(Curie Point).

Weather control takes alot control over ALOT of POWERFUL forces in CONCERT.

Mags only has control over one.

Both Bloodlusted, I think Storm would win. She would just tap into ALL of these resources, irreguarles of anything and bend them to her will, electromagnetic and all.

Given all the elements involved, storms powers can be expanded almost limitlessly.

Mags only has ONE at his disposal.

ok

so I am not giving the Storm fanboys any more scientific jargon to throw around...

Originally posted by 2damnloud
It said on Wiki that her powers "inadvertently" can destroy the earth(ecosystem) just by USING them.

It would be far more impressive if she was doing this without using her powers. Technically, wouldn't Iceman and Human Torch do the same on some level? Bringing crap to subzero temperatures or emitting the heat of a small sun can't be doing any good.

Mags only controls the electromagnetic spectrum.

And pretty much everything else. I mean, he can't manipulate time or anything but if it's an energy or you can feel it in any way chances are Magneto has done something to it from his powers leaking into almost every other universal force.

Whoops, accidentally quoted.

Originally posted by Swanky-Tuna

And pretty much everything else. I mean, he can't manipulate time or anything but if it's an energy or you can feel it in any way chances are Magneto has done something to it from his powers leaking into almost every other universal force.

And the same can't be said about Storm, "Mistress of the Elements"??

Originally posted by 2damnloud
It said on Wiki that her powers "inadvertently" can destroy the earth(ecosystem) just by USING them.

Note that you are using Wiki as your source. Anything that looks like conjecture on Wiki probably is.

Originally posted by 2damnloud
And the same can't be said about Storm, "Mistress of the Elements"??

With creative writing, yeah. But her thing seems to be manipulating lesser amounts of energy to create much more powerful effects via the weather. It just seems kind of awkward. Regardless of which of her hundreds of nicknames are brought up.

Magneto on the other hand... the writers see the word "bond" or "elec" or "mag" in an article and Magneto has power over it. As I've said before, Magneto has bastardized science based powers. The sky's the limit!

Originally posted by ExodusCloak

And here's the Handbook 2004 where it states that Storm is limited to 300mph winds. I'll leave it up to the reader to decide whether or not the New Handbook contradicts this statement. The new handbook is on the previous page of this thread.
Here's the 2004 Handbook.
http://img522.imageshack.us/my.php?image=page036hh5.jpg

Thanks, Exodus.😉
Indeed it's been said that her max winds are 300mph. It is official. But I read somewhere that her max winds have been changed in the most recent official handbook because if I base it on her fight against Clor (spoilers) she created winds faster than 300mph.😉

But not really sure the exact speed that has been updated, nor I'm sure it's really true. If anyone have the most recent issue, feel free to correct me.

Originally posted by RisingStorm
Thanks, Exodus.😉
Indeed it's been said that her max winds are 300mph. It is official. But I read somewhere that her max winds have been changed in the most recent official handbook because if I base it on her fight against Clor (spoilers) she created winds faster than 300mph.😉

But not really sure the exact speed that has been updated, nor I'm sure it's really true. If anyone have the most recent issue, feel free to correct me.

I thought the issue only comes out next month? Is it out already? The most I've seen of Black Panther #25 was the 4 scan preview.

http://www.marvel.com/catalog/?book_id=6047
http://www.wizarduniverse.com/magazine/wizard/003180036.cfm

Here you go the most recent issue of the Handbook.

Originally posted by Swanky-Tuna
With creative writing, yeah. But her thing seems to be manipulating lesser amounts of energy to create much more powerful effects via the weather. It just seems kind of awkward. Regardless of which of her hundreds of nicknames are brought up.

Magneto on the other hand... the writers see the word "bond" or "elec" or "mag" in an article and Magneto has power over it. As I've said before, Magneto has bastardized science based powers. The sky's the limit!

Not so. She is able to disperse hurricanes. She has even dispelled a hemisphere-sized hurricane. Ergo, she does manipulate those enormous amounts of energies.

As far as Magneto goes, Storm's powers technically overlap his. She controls the forces that governs the weather as well as weather manifestations themselves. This includes EM fields. Considering the amount of ecosystem she has been able to alter without outside enhancements, she's much more powerful than he as he can't move that much energy on his own.

Also, in Uncanny 147, she control over ALL elemental forces which would include Magneto's powers. Not only that, but in the Brood Saga, we see that Ororo can perceive the universe as patterns of energy and forces and bend them to her will. This included planets, stars and even empty space. What you are trying to assert with Mangeto, Storm has already achieved and gone beyond. Magneto has never wielded the power of millions of stars or even a single star. He would kill himself even trying to do a global EMP wave without artificial enhancements or extraordinary circumstances surrounding the condition of the EM fields.

Originally posted by RisingStorm
Thanks, Exodus.😉
Indeed it's been said that her max winds are 300mph. It is official. But I read somewhere that her max winds have been changed in the most recent official handbook because if I base it on her fight against Clor (spoilers) she created winds faster than 300mph.😉

But not really sure the exact speed that has been updated, nor I'm sure it's really true. If anyone have the most recent issue, feel free to correct me.

ExodusCloak's tactics here goes against forum rules. Sure, that issue may have said 300 mph, but she has done things well beyond that.

What has been done with Ororo is they now just have her winds performing huge stunts and not giving any speed for them. EC's attempt with this 300 mph thing is to try and get around Ororo's enormous power stunts with her winds so as to keep her in a box/category where he feels that she should be. The fact that the lady can create pressure systems greater than the surface of Jupiter or pressure of sufficient force to create a barrier which she can punch her way out of a mountain/iceberg with is extremely impressive. Then she can easily create lows that can suffocate people or snuff out flames too? The fact that she has this kind of pressure control alone combined with her ability to take resources from anywhere on the globe gives her well beyond the 300 mph wind thing. You do not get pressure differences in hurricanes or tornadoes this extreme. That is going to make the winds move faster.

What Exodus Cloak is trying to do is say Storm's max winds are 300 mph. This way, he can argue that MAgneto's force-field can withstand them since he withstood a nuclear missile. However, when you have stories like Storm redirecting Sienna Blaze's full power which makes a nuke a (very minor) firecracker in comparison, his argument is lost. See the tactic he's trying to pull? Won't work.