Originally posted by Ivalice
How i recall gideon wondering why are you being so rude to someone whom was voicing his own opinion. I guess your ego has blinded you to such an extent that you even forget people are entitled to their own opinions.
Yeah, you'll never hear me ***** about 'people being rude' here or Janus and company abusing powers as administrators. After Pyron handed me the links to the Tales of the Jedi companion, I made a thread at SD.net asking if it created an error in the continuity regarding the Force Storms and asking if Nadd's knowledge of the dark side now eclipsed Palpatine's (and question threads are within the rules), but because I didn't link the pictures, I'm now being bitched out by a moderator there:
One, link shit that big.Two, use your ****ing brain dumbass.
They are using a ****ing immensely broad cross section, and never once did Freedon Nadd demonstrate said ****ing abilities. 🙄
My response:
You have my most sincere apologies for failing to link the snapshots in question; such behavior is clearly against the rules and I should have known better. As to the rest, having tremendous affection for my own intellect, I would disagree that I'm a "****ing idiot" as you so eloquently put it, but I'm sure that holds little currency with you. If this thread is a blight to the forums, feel free to lock it. I suppose Mr. Primus, Publius, and Havokeff have given me the answers I need.
His response:
Then, next time, dumbass, use your ****ing brain and think for yourself.And Strike two, dumb****.
Originally posted by GideonReally? It was in that infamous dooku vs vader thread when you told faunus that he is being rude to someone whom was trying to voice his own opinions.
Yeah, you'll never hear me ***** about 'people being rude' here or Janus and company abusing powers as administrators.
BTW that moderator is a douchebag, another ****** with an inflated ego whom still insulted you even after you gave him/it sincere apologies.
Whats the hype going on anyways about "nadd knowing more than palpatine".
Originally posted by Lightsnake
And as gameplay statistics, your point is invalid.
So sorry
Firstly, it's not a statistic. The term you're looking for is "gameplay mechanic," and in this case, it reflects on both gameplay and the story, and is thus a canonical representation of what Nadd possessed.
So no, as it stands, my point remains, out of universe material trumps in universe material, and you have no point.
So unlucky
By it's nature, yes it does. Out of universe material is narrated by an all knowing source, and is thus perfectly canon, and not subject to being inaccurate. In universe material is narrated by fallible characters, who may suffer from biases, being misinformed etc.
So as I was saying, out of universe material >>> in universe material in terms of reliability. Evil Never Dies is not in a position to retcon the DSSB.
Because what I'm saying makes perfect sense and destroys any point you and Lightsnake were trying to make, and what you're sayingthat works under the logic that fallible third party narration > omniscient narration in terms of reliability.
That's why.
Now, get to a valid rebuttal, or concede the point.
Noobaris, just because you believe you're making perfect sense doesn't mean you are. Just like you think you are a competent debater when in reality, you aren't. You actually have to DESTROY someone's point for it to happen, not SAY you've done it with no basis for it. You must enjoy getting banned for stupidity.
Originally posted by IvaliceRight. So next time someone says "Yoda at his peak," I'm going to assume they're talking about the purely theoretical Dark Yoda, who - in the mind of Dooku - would annihilate Sidious in the blink of an eye.
To you at least. The only problem is that he did not specify.I could even assume that when he meant the best version of vader it would mean anakin at full potential.
Hurray for logic.
I guess you always say this when some one hurts your ego.Yeah, being called stupid over the internet crushes my soul and makes me cry a little bit.
I guess your IQ drops down quick enough that you started to forget what if's scenario which is what i was clearly implying from the beginning.(Or have you failed to realise that because of your already and constantly decreasing IQ)?Ouch. My IQ is dropping. More of this garbage and it'll be true.
Btw, your English? An abomination in the eyes of God. MoC forgives you though, so don't worry about it.
But hey i DO see that you have an over inflated ego seeing that you think you are on a higher level of intelligence(Which is painfully obvious you are not) and wisdom judging from the fact you most of the time(if not always) attack people when they voice their opinions.Daaaamn. Hypocrite, much?How i recall gideon wondering why are you being so rude to someone whom was voicing his own opinion. I guess your ego has blinded you to such an extent that you even forget people are entitled to their own opinions.
Originally posted by the hypocrite
Yawn no ones interested in your opinion sithord1139
That being from yet another thread Pyron decided to revive.
Huh? Wait, there's more?
From here:
Originally posted by the hypocriteEmphasis yours.
Now would you kindly shut the hell up before i f*ck your backside? There IS enough evidence to prove lukes point, The ONLY problem is that you are too incompetent to do your damn research or look up at more EU material which depicts vaders incredible combat prowess.Its so sad you just cannot and will not accept this fact man of christ solely due to the fact that you are too incompetent to read anything i have mentioned or read more EU material which depicts superiority.
Now man of christ, post your same pile of shit and i swear i will humiliate and own you infront of the entire forums with overwhelming evidence if you don't shut the hell up.
And, of course, you getting two warnings for being a jackass with an "overinflated" ego who bashes people for expressing their opinions:
Originally posted by Captain REX
Ivalice, tone down the vulgarity. You're on thin ice as it is, no pun intended. There is no need for that kind of talk, no matter where the debate is going."
Originally posted by Captain REXAnd then of course, there's this little thing called context. I told you to stop trying to be a smartass, you offered to "f*ck [someone's] backside" and "own and humiliate [someone] in front of the entire forums."
Knock it off, Ivalice. Last time I'm going to say it. It doesn't matter how stupid you believe Man of Christ to be, you can't insult him or anyone else, or you can't participate.
Originally posted by IvaliceSarcasm.
Really? It was in that infamous dooku vs vader thread when you told faunus that he is being rude to someone whom was trying to voice his own opinions.
In case you missed the Janus – Gideon flame wars that show up on every other thread in which EoD somehow gets brought up in every other post...
EDIT: *gets back on topic*
I remember someone stating that RoT makes Nadd out to be more powerful than was previously thought; can anyone clarify this?
I'll say it again: Gameplay mechanics = invalid. They're contradicted by another source which says Larad Noon invented the Dark Armor (And as they have records of Freedon Nadd and mention him extensively, I'm inclined to trust them) and, oh yes, nowhere is it said Dark Armor is made of cortosis ore, rather just weave that's saber resistant and STILL isn't foolproof
EDIT
All right, you have my sincere apologies. I'm sorry that i attempted to call you out in the process and it ended up backfiring at me. But i (honestly) do not hold any grudges against you and i wish for this to cease.
Originally posted by FaunusIf you REALLY want to debate in a more civil tone then i guess we can start here(assuming that you want to drop the whole issue and come into terms, which i would be glad to do so as i was about to explain the situation which you have yet to fully understand)
EDIT: *gets back on topic*I remember someone stating that RoT makes Nadd out to be more powerful than was previously thought; can anyone clarify this?
And yes, i can clarify this i believe.
Page 103 Rule of two
Freedon nadd had been a jedi who turned to the dark side as the apprentice of naga sadow, the former ruler of the ancient sith empire. Sadow's power had been so great, it had allowed him to survive for six centuries, fueled by the energy of the dark side. As his apprentice, Nadd had absorbed all his knowledge and teachings, transferring them into the holocron before murdering sadow and taking his place.
This quote alone shows that nadd has a much better understanding of sith magic and alchemy than previously thought before Rot came out.
There are more quotes as i recall, if i find them ill post them.
Originally posted by IvaliceFine by me. I had fun with that post anyway. 😛
EDITAll right, you have my sincere apologies. I'm sorry that i attempted to call you out in the process and it ended up backfiring at me. But i (honestly) do not hold any grudges against you and i wish for this to cease.
And yes, i can clarify this i believe.Ah. Thanks for that.Page 103 Rule of two
Freedon nadd had been a jedi who turned to the dark side as the apprentice of naga sadow, the former ruler of the ancient sith empire. Sadow's power had been so great, it had allowed him to survive for six centuries, fueled by the energy of the dark side. As his apprentice, Nadd had absorbed all his knowledge and teachings, transferring them into the holocron before murdering sadow and taking his place.This quote alone shows that nadd has a much better understanding of sith magic and alchemy than previously thought before Rot came out.
There are more quotes as i recall, if i find them ill post them.
Originally posted by Lightsnake
I'll say it again: Gameplay mechanics = invalid.
Statistics are N-Canon, and they alone (and even then, LFL has still stated that they can be used to act as comparison devices, and that they reflect on established canon). Gameplay mechanics that elaborate on the story are perfectly canon, and in this case, they're being presented by an omniscient source.
They're contradicted by another source which says Larad Noon invented the Dark Armor
By a fallible in-universe source, yes.
(And as they have records of Freedon Nadd and mention him extensively, I'm inclined to trust them)
Firstly, here's the one and only mention of Nadd in the entire article:
The last lord of the Sith Empire to possess Adas' holocron was Lord Garu, who died around the time of the Great Hyperspace War. The holocron was abandoned on the planet Ashas Ree until its rediscovery centuries later by the fallen Jedi Freedon Nadd. Nadd used it to rule the planet Onderon, where the teachings of King Adas helped usher in a new age of darkness. When the Jedi eventually freed Onderon of the dark side, they gained possession of the Sith holocron and banished it to a place where it could, presumably, never be recovered -- under millions of tons of water on a scarcely known world called Kodai.
Hardly extensive.
Secondly, the stuff on Nadd is completely unrelated to the stuff on Noon and cortosis, ergo it can't be used to measure its accuracy on that topic.
Thirdly, the fact that the source is fallible by nature means that no matter how reliable you think it is, it's not in a position to retcon material that's infallible by nature. You have no point, bottom line. The in-universe article is quite simply wrong in this case, as it contradicts an out-of-universe source.
and, oh yes, nowhere is it said Dark Armor is made of cortosis ore, rather just weave that's saber resistant and STILL isn't foolproof
No, it's explicitly stated on page 60 that it's made out of cortosis ore, and deactivates a lightsaber upon impact.