freedon nadd versus darth vader

Started by IOU10 pages

freedon nadd versus darth vader

both are in their prime
both are fully armed
both gain full knowledge of their opponent
both get as much preparation time as they want

fight takes place in the crystal caves of dantooine
both start at opposite ends
anything goes

Anakin kills Freedon.

Which Vader are we talking about? OT or RotS?

I think (and Hope) he's referring to RotS Vader.

It makes no difference what Vader it is. Any Vader wins this hands down.

i was actually referring to ot vader, as that is when he is in his prime imho, but you can use whatever version you feel is the most powerful

Any amount of preparation...

Vader has legions of Stormtroopers, a bunch of Dark Jedi, Sidious, and access to a Death Star....

Im not so sure since nadd is an unknown

Originally posted by jollyjim311
Any amount of preparation...

Vader has legions of Stormtroopers, a bunch of Dark Jedi, Sidious, and access to a Death Star....

no, he gets as much time as he wants to prepare in terms of how to plan the fight for example, thats it, its still just vader versus freedon nadd, and they are both armed with only the stuff they would usually have in personal combat situations

Originally posted by Manslayer
Im not so sure since nadd is an unknown

Wow, i thought you wore going to say Vader wins, is everything alright with you.

I'm not 100% sure what you mean in terms of preparation. I'll assume that he can map out the place of the fight and such.

Vader is a smart fighter. He could set something up. He could also have Sidious brew him up some Sith Alchemical substances and such...

Id say Freedon Nadd YES I SAYED IT. look Freedon Nadd was THE first SITH LORD in the Entire Galaxy so hes bound to KICK SERIOUS ASS

Not sure because I don't know exactly what the preparation time means, but with no preparation Nadd would destroy Vader. Remember, even as a spirit he was able to bring Vodo Siosk-Baas to the ground with a Force attack from across the galaxy, imagine what he could do in his prime. Plus he has the same damned amulet blast that Kun has.

Proof? Quotes? There AREN'T ANY. There is no way to prove if Freedon Nadd is more powerful or stronger or better in saber combat because he simply is an UNKNOWN.

Originally posted by MasterAshenVor
Id say Freedon Nadd YES I SAYED IT. look Freedon Nadd was THE first SITH LORD in the Entire Galaxy so hes bound to KICK SERIOUS ASS

He wasn't the first sith lord.

Originally posted by MasterAshenVor
Id say Freedon Nadd YES I SAYED IT. look Freedon Nadd was THE first SITH LORD in the Entire Galaxy so hes bound to KICK SERIOUS ASS

Lack of proper punctuation, capitalization, and you invented the word "Sayed."

Also, Nadd was not the first Sith Lord, and you have no proof of Nadd kicking any ass.

Vader could > nadd, I dont see how nadd can defend againsty a force crush of monstrous proportions

look if you guys still cant understand what i meant by prep time, just ignore it, and treat it like any other thread, i only felt the need to bring it up so that you would know that vader and nadd werent exactly entering the battle not knowing what the fvck was going on, and that they would know the setting, know their opponent, and be able to plan how to enter the battle, thats it

neways i dnt think nadds getting enough credit here, i actually believe hes one of the most powerful sith lords and that he firmly takes this

ill make an argument for him in about a couple of weeks or so as im properly busy with exams and stuff right now, but feel free to make an argument for vader in the meantime, because as i see it, nothing puts him above nadd

IOU the reason that Nadd is not getting enough credit is because most of his feats and knowledge we have about him occurred when he a spirit. I and probably many others here need to see what he can when he is ALIVE in a story.

Without prep time, Nadd would win. Here are his known feats.

- As a Jedi Apprentice he was able to kill his Master in a lightsaber duel. His master, Matta Tremayne, was considered to be an excellent duelist (was stated on Wookieepedia, I am trying to find out what source that came from).
- Naga Sadow trained him in the ways of the dark side, however, before his training was complete, he was strong enough to kill Sadow. (I'm not saying Sadow is above Vader, but he is strong)
- Nadd became somewhat of a god within Onderon truism for defeating the planet's wild beasts and aborigines.
- Thought that he could return from the dead with the help of Ommin or Amanoa. however, they never became powerful enough to help him.
- As a spirit was able to knock Nomi Sunrider to the ground, though he was unable to stop Ulic Qel-Droma.
- When Vodo Siosk-Baas tried to shield Exar Kun from the dark side, Freedon Nadd detected Vodo's interference, and in a masterful display of his dark power, attacked Vodo from light years away, knocking Vodo to the ground. This is how powerful Nadd is as a spirit, being able to knock both Vodo and Nomi to the ground.
- Freedon Nadd used a short lightsaber as well as "Freedon Nadd's Blaster," a vile ranged weapon with a bronze surface which "has killed more Jedi than any lightsaber." These weapons can be found in KoToR 2.
- In addition to all of his aforementioned feats., Nadd collected many Sith artifacts from old Sith ruins, including the amulet that Exar Kun would later use. Could Vader block the infamous amulet blast?
- Freedon Nadd was a Dark Jedi. The stories say he was far worse then Revan and Malak ever were."
―Xarga

And Revan is stronger than Vader, I think. I seriously doubt that Vader is going to be taking out Nadd, amulet and all.