Originally posted by Utrigita
Yes all that needs to be remade was just everything that Abraxas ****ed up and what was it that he ****ed up the multiverse, commen sense say that in order to fix it it must be realigned just like the roadnet.Don't worry I never shallow someones openion. I make my own and debate from that.
That is the point where you and mr master are having a really problem profe. One says Bio counts more one say on panel proof counts more. I say they are equal.
Reality by canon fixes itself and corrects temporal errors.
Common sense says that if the UN made it so that Abraxas never went on his rampage, then the damage present would be written out of the timeline.
Either way all across continuity on panel the UN is said to be universal. As well as those on panel accounts the Un is said to be universal in the handbooks.
Its not a case of bios vs on panel with me supporting the bios.
Its a case of on panel appearances before this F4 event AND bios AFTER this event stating the UN is a universal weapon.
Mr Master hasnt presented any scans that conclusively state or show the UN to be multiverse. He's presented a string of events and comments from that one saga which CAN be interpreted as he has. There is nothing conclusive about what hes presented. I on the other hand have conclusive statements saying the UN is a universal weapon. 😬
firefirefireph
Common sense this jack:
Here Reed says
"our Earth is merging with other Alternates"...
how can this be...unless the entire Multiverse is misaligned.
Here Nova says
"creatures of the MULTIVERSE Mixing --- Reality folding onto itself"
again this Multiversal misalignment is literally ripping the Multiverse apart.
Finally what does this lead to?
Reed,
"In order to REALIGN ALL that is...we had to END ALL that was."
What was MISALIGNED that NEEDED to be REALIGNED?
The MULTI-VERSE!
Reed uses the Ultimate Nullifier to banish Abraxas & Remake the Multiverse
UN Destroys the Multiverse
UN Remakes the Multiverse in an instant
Originally posted by GalacticStorm
Mr Master hasnt presented any scans that conclusively state or show the UN to be multiverse. He's presented a string of events and comments from that one saga which CAN be interpreted as he has. There is nothing conclusive about what hes presented. I on the other hand have conclusive statements saying the UN is a universal weapon.
AGAIN:
"Should Abraxas reach the NULLIFIER,
He CAN OBLITERATE ALL the COMBINED REALITIES of the MULTI-VERSE"
Yes I know, I know,
Reed is a bonehead and doesn't know what he's talking about,
or it's hyperbole,
or your bio supercedes this ON PANEL evidence,
or damn it, if Phoenix CAN'T do it, then the UN shouldn't,
😆
Originally posted by Mr Master
Again, Nullification energies are the SAME at any range,the scale of influence is the only difference.
So the potency of energy required to nullify a Universe or a single individual,
is the same as the potency needed to nullify the Multiverse.
Obviously, the scale of nullification is different, but the same Energies are at work.
Show me where it is stated that the energies are the same lvl? Fire star frying Juggernauts helmet is the same energy she used to open up a wormhole. Something the pheonix should only be able to do. Same energy, obviously NOT the same output. Try that crap on someone else who is dumb enough to fall for it.
Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
Show me where it is stated that the energies are the same lvl? Fire star frying Juggernauts helmet is the same energy she used to open up a wormhole. Something the pheonix should only be able to do. Same energy, obviously NOT the same output.
This analogy has nothing to do with the UN.
Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
Try that crap on someone else who is dumb enough to fall for it.
😆
Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
Actually it does.Your limited scope and lack of perception outside of anything that you have already concluded precludes that you are an inept debator and pretty much full of your self.
stfu2
Go Read Comics,
your knowledge of the UN and/or of the Marvel Cosmology is pultry at best.
And even though KMC's most determined Sock applauds you, it's true.
😆
If that's the only support you have, I feel sorry for you.
Originally posted by Mr MasterYour pathetic and LIMP attempt to belittle me doesn't even begin to address the issue at hand. I have soundly deflated your rediculous UN/IG theory using sound logic. Same Energies does NOT equal the same out put or use.
stfu2Go Read Comics,
your knowledge of the UN and/or of the Marvel Cosmology is pultry at best.
And even though KMC's most determined Sock applauds you, it's true.
😆
If that's the only support you have, I feel sorry for you.
Originally posted by Mr Master
stfu2Go Read Comics,
your knowledge of the UN and/or of the Marvel Cosmology is pultry at best.
And even though KMC's most determined Sock applauds you, it's true.
😆
If that's the only support you have, I feel sorry for you.
Whats the matter been de-clawed,wheres all the insults and foul language? i think the mods would know if i was a sock(which i dont even know what it is)
well i will say thank you for at least trying to be somewhat polite and refraining from spouting out foul language
and i have not seen a lie in ages-good for you
you might not like me but at least i can try and respect you now
Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
Your pathetic and LIMP attempt to belittle me doesn't even begin to address the issue at hand.
The only one coming in here insulting was you son:
Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
Your limited scope and lack of perception outside of anything that you have already concludedprecludes that you are an inept debator and pretty much full of your self.
You do you expect after this kind of garbage.
Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
I have soundly deflated your rediculous UN/IG theory using sound logic.
hysterical
Again,
please Read a Comic Book before debating.
Your One fan will be ignored.
Originally posted by GalacticStorm
All you have is a bunch of scans and you OPINION on whats going on in them 😬
All that you have in this case is handbook bios (which are not generally considered valid on KMC). If I missed on panel verification that you found could you please repost it?
Besides that everything is opinion and interperitation.
Originally posted by Mr Master
The only one coming in here insulting was you son:You do you expect after this kind of garbage.
hysterical
Again,
please Read a Comic Book before debating.
Your One fan will be ignored.
And yet you are the one who dismissed the fact that my logic was sound. Same energies does not equal same use and output. Superman's heat vision is the same energy that Superboy prime uses. And yet, Super Boy primes kills GL's while Superman can use his to cauter a wound. Same energy, differnt uses, different outputs. Your UN/IG Theory is flawed and there for debunked. Have a nice day.
Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
And yet you are the one who dismissed the fact that my logic was sound. Same energies does not equal same use and output. Superman's heat vision is the same energy that Superboy prime uses. And yet, Super Boy primes kills GL's while Superman can use his to cauter a wound. Same energy, differnt uses, different outputs.
Again,
your analogy is sensible but it does not relate.
Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
Your UN/IG Theory is flawed and there for debunked. Have a nice day.
Originally posted by Mr Master
Again, Nullification energies are the SAME at any range,the scale of influence is the only difference.
So the potency of energy required to nullify a Universe or a single individual,
is the same as the potency needed to nullify the Multiverse.
Obviously, the scale of nullification is different, but the same Energies are at work.
Originally posted by Thanos_THOTU
You have to accept that he does not possess the brain capacity required to comperhend the fact's you've just stated.
Actually his statement doesn't make sense. As long as the use and the users are differnt, then the circumstances are incomparible and thus not scientific in the applied theory that he is passing off as law. Please don't come at me with anything about brain capacity. You get yours out of his you know where the sun don't shine and then talk about brains buddy.