Drug Users

Originally posted by ragesRemorse
Do you really want me to quote Healt boards and nuero scientists on how Marijuanna is harmful to ones health? I mean, i will be glad to embarass your ignorance in questioning how pot is harmful to ones health, but i assume you have more sense in accepting that it is in fact distressing to the human body

Funny how all these hardcore facts are so within reach, and yet marijuana remains unproven to be dangerous somehow.

The only proof that weed is harmful to a person's health is the "If you smoke it, you can get lung cancer. If you do a lot, it can affect your mind.".

So what? It's also been said that nowhere is it proven that these POSSIBLE consequences are irreversible and never has it been said that this could occur unless you were taking the equal amount of Snoop Dogg if he was also The Hulk.

Even so, if it was harmful, why do you give a shit? Smoking in public where it infringes upon people? Sure, but do that with any smokable substance. Why do you care who does weed or whatever, where it doesn't affect you?

You avoided my question; Have you ever done an illegal drug?

-AC

Originally posted by ragesRemorse
Do you really want me to quote Healt boards and nuero scientists on how Marijuanna is harmful to ones health?

shall i quote the amount of tobacco related deaths, and we can compare to see which is more dangerous? really want to challenge me there? or shall we just say that your point that "unhealthy/dangerous should equal illegal "is laughably moot?

Originally posted by ragesRemorse
I mean, i will be glad to exploit your ignorance in questioning how pot is harmful to ones health, but i assume you have more sense and accept that it is in fact distressing to the human body

yet you demand your 'right' to not only smoke cigarettes, but poison the lungs those around you. at this point you can and really should drop the defensive stance and realise how mindnumbingly hypocritical your position is.

Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
Even so, if it was harmful, why do you give a shit? Smoking in public where it infringes upon people? Sure, but do that with any smokable substance. Why do you care who does weed or whatever, where it doesn't affect you?

You avoided my question; Have you ever done an illegal drug?

-AC

I dont give a shit, Though i may have insinuated that i believe pot is the devils tool. I Do not believe it is a severe problem or even brings long term detrimental effects. As a former pot toker, I still acknowledge that it is harmful to the human body. Although the effects are not so much physical but more emotional. I didnt think there was anyone who actually believed that pot is healthy. As far as causing depression, paranoia, lack of ambition and being a nueron inhibitor I dont know how anyone can say its not harmful to ones health.

http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2004/09/040916102315.htm

Originally posted by Schecter
shall i quote the amount of tobacco related deaths, and we can compare to see which is more dangerous? really want to challenge me there? or shall we just say that your point that "unhealthy/dangerous should equal illegal "is laughably moot?

yet you demand your 'right' to not only smoke cigarettes, but poison the lungs those around you. at this point you can and really should drop the defensive stance and realise how mindnumbingly hypocritical your position is.

For one, I never said anything that is dangerous or unhealthy should be made illegal. Your the one who made a point closer to that conclusion with you rant on the idea that trans fat is poison. I simply said that beleiving in second hand smoke, means that you have to acknowledge that pot has harmful second hand smoke which i do not believe. Who ever said that cigarettes dont kill? I sure didnt. Again assuming you read all the facts which disprove second hand smoke, and believe them, my statements are no where hypocritical.

Originally posted by ragesRemorse
So it should be my right to not be nasaly raped by your shitty cologn Which i am also allergic to?

allergies are not the same as a public health risk, unless concerning a greater minority, as is the case with peanuts. any food product produced/packaged in a factory which also produces peanut products must state so on the package. however laws cannot very well ban every potentially allergic chemical. what a silly point. stop flailing and grasping for straws.

comparing a potentially yet astoundingly unlikely allergic agent to noxious carbon monoxide is so asinine and silly i cannot begin to fathom how you decided to post this.

Originally posted by ragesRemorse
Since when do we ban things in this country because other people do not approve?

since we banned marijuana, for starters. you dont approve, it doesnt effect you at all, it is relatively harmless especially compared to cigarettes as the yearly deathtoll clearly illustrates, yet you are comfortable in your painfully convoluded logic...becuase lets face it...you dont approve. your approval therefor (combined with easily thwartable moot points) must then be law...enforcible, and punishable. that to me is the makings of an irredeamable hypocrite. i emplore you to think about this. really think about it.

Originally posted by ragesRemorse
I'm at a loss on why you believe my points were utter horseshit. Other than the fact that you apparently disagree with them.

because your points have no factual, logical, practical, moral, or...well...any sound basis other then "well i just dont like this so you shouldnt have the right to do it, although its not deadly" and "well i really like this although its deadly, so you should have to breath it in with me"

Originally posted by ragesRemorse
Was it the fact that i disagree that trans fat which is essentially margerine is not poisen?

oh ffs i used the wrong word. lets play the semantics game? may as well since its all you have left to grasp. it is deadly over the long term, though you still have the right to cook with it. btw, its NOT basically margerine. did some idiot tell you that or did you just make it up?

Originally posted by ragesRemorse
By your logic anything that is not good for the human body is poison.

Originally posted by ragesRemorse
Just like anything else seved at a fast food restaurant. trans fat is no more harmfull to you than the other crap that you stuff into your mouth at mcdonalds, assuming you exercise portion control.

the body cannot properly process transfat. it is in fact a health risk. closing your ears and parroting wont chang that. the medical community aggrees with me.

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WOW

Originally posted by ragesRemorse
For one, I never said anything that is dangerous or unhealthy should be made illegal.

unless its marijuanna....since thats the only reason you gave of why it should remain illegal. wtf is wrong with you. im close to putting you on ignore because you seem impossibly stupid and intentionally evasive at this point

Originally posted by ragesRemorse
I dont give a shit

Then shut up and stop involving yourself. If it doesn't have any impact on you, if it's not forced on you, you have no say on who should stop and why

Originally posted by ragesRemorse
Though i may have insinuated that i believe pot is the devils tool. I Do not believe it is a severe problem or even brings long term detrimental effects. As a former pot toker, I still acknowledge that it is harmful to the human body. Although the effects are not so much physical but more emotional. I didnt think there was anyone who actually believed that pot is healthy. As far as causing depression, paranoia, lack of ambition and being a nueron inhibitor I dont know how anyone can say its not harmful to ones health.

http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2004/09/040916102315.htm

Emotional? For you maybe, I know many who aren't affected. Don't push subjective effects as some kind of objective conclusion.

I'm sure both you and I know many pot users who haven't ever exhibited paranoia, lack of ambition etc.

Most of the proposed "harm" comes from smoking it anyway.

-AC

Originally posted by Schecter
comparing a potentially yet astoundingly unlikely allergic agent to noxious carbon monoxide is so asinine and silly i cannot begin to fathom how you decided to post this.

This was posted because of your remark that tobacco annoys you and that it causes harm to you. Giving creedence to why it should be banned. Again...second hand smoke is horseshit. And that post should not have been taken seriously as well as your post on being nasaly raped was not taken serious because it was mere opinion with NO facts

PVS smokes.

Originally posted by Schecter

since we banned marijuana, for starters. you dont approve, it doesnt effect you at all, it is relatively harmless especially compared to cigarettes as the yearly deathtoll clearly illustrates, yet you are comfortable in your painfully convoluded logic...becuase lets face it...you dont approve. your approval therefor (combined with easily thwartable moot points) must then be law...enforcible, and punishable. that to me is the makings of an irredeamable hypocrite. i emplore you to think about this. really think about it.

Where are you getting the idea that i am siding with having things banned because i do not approve? I simply said that pot is harmful to ones health. and used it as example that believing in second hand smoke would have to be applied to pot aswell. My question on since when do we ban things because we simply disaprove was a rehtorical question. More of an idealist view that we should all tolerate each others vices. As long as they are not harmful to others. So please stop speaking about approval. I am not siding with the idea that pot should be legal or illegal, no where did agree with this idea one way or another. I simply gave acknowledgment on one reason why pot is illegal

Originally posted by Schecter

because your points have no factual, logical, practical, moral, or...well...any sound basis other then "well i just dont like this so you shouldnt have the right to do it, although its not deadly" and "well i really like this although its deadly, so you should have to breath it in with me"

how have i not shown any factual backing to my views? I supplied you with the longest study on second hand smoke, as well as a scientific evidence on how pot is harmful. I can find many more, which are widely accepted in the medical field if oyu like

Originally posted by Schecter

fair enough, captain semantics,
by your logic everything you dont care for should be illegal and punishable under law. i guess that makes me a drama queen and you a ****ing facist

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Again, where and how am i suggesting that anything i dissprove of should be made illegal? I am the one defending against a ban that has been enforced by people like you that wish to infringe on rights because you do not agree with something.

Originally posted by botankus
PVS smokes.

as well as ignores idiots.

maybe ill take him off when my cough subsides and i can get my proper nicotine dosage. right now though i just dont have the patience for this idiocy *ignored*

Originally posted by Schecter

unless its marijuanna....since thats the only reason you gave of why it should remain illegal. wtf is wrong with you. im close to putting you on ignore because you seem impossibly stupid and intentionally evasive at this point

I NEVER said that pot should or shouldnt be illegal, I only acknowledged that it is harmful, which is possibly one reason that it is ilegal. I am close to ignoring you aswell partner just for your sheer lack of comprehension

Originally posted by ragesRemorse
I am close to ignoring you aswell partner just for your sheer lack of comprehension

Give up, AC is notorious for misunderstanding people. Let AC 'win'. I can relate to your frustration.

Originally posted by ragesRemorse
I NEVER said that pot should or shouldnt be illegal, I only acknowledged that it is harmful, which is possibly one reason that it is ilegal. I am close to ignoring you aswell partner just for your sheer lack of comprehension

Lack of comprehension to what? I've not denied a harmful possibility, just that this is all it is and that your arguments for it being harmful are entirely subjective results, they aren't things that happen to every pot smoker.

Originally posted by 2D_MASTER
Give up, AC is notorious for misunderstanding people. Let AC 'win'. I can relate to your frustration.

Meet 2D_MASTER, my pet. He follows me around and does tricks.

-AC

Originally posted by Alpha Centauri

Meet 2D_MASTER, my pet. He follows me around and does tricks.

-AC

Bwhahaha. Think whatever fills your empty boring life. Cheers.

Did you not come here just to have a pot at me?

Funny how you're still even here.

-AC

Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
Did you not come here just to have a pot at me?

Funny how you're still even here.

-AC

No, I came here to talk bullshit with Backfire, funny guy. But eventually I just read the actual post, interesting. What's so funny about me still being here?

The way moderators select who to ban, you're clearly a sock or a troll, or both.

Either way, get on with the thread if it's your concern. If I'm someone you can't stand, don't address me.

-AC

Originally posted by ragesRemorse
I NEVER said that pot should or shouldnt be illegal, I only acknowledged that it is harmful, which is possibly one reason that it is ilegal. I am close to ignoring you aswell partner just for your sheer lack of comprehension

ok, fine. tell me that you are for legalisation of marijuanna and i will gladly and humbly retract my statements. its just that your pattern of scrutinising one side's factors which almost exactly mirrors the side which you support (exception being forcing others to inhale your smoke in closed quarters)clearly supports my assumption.

so yeah, assure me that you are not desperately hypocritical respects to legalisation/illegalisation of dangerous substances and i will humbly appologise. if not i guess we have nothing more to discuss.