darth maul vs general gerivous

Originally posted by alterangel
but could maul take mundi, shaak ti, aayla secura, tarr seirr, and k'kruhk? no way!
however grievous took them on and almost killed them all had their precise little clones arrived

So could Maul have defeated them when they were exhausted, scared and surprised? Impossible to say.

I cannot see Grievous win here.

Originally posted by darthsith19
You have to remember 3 things about that duel, though.
1. Those Jedi were exhausted when they fought Grievous.
2. Those Jedi were scared when they fought Grievous.
3. Grievous caught those Jedi by surprise by dropping down on them from the ceiling.

So could Maul have defeated them when they were exhausted, scared and surprised? Impossible to say.

Your right that its impossible to say and thats quite possibly that he might be able to but we do know that grievous did and grievous has killed hundreds of force users one of which was a dark jedi, maul would be something grievous is use to: cocky aggresive, fast, smart, and relentless, and all of these traits he has been trained to deal with, and while maul might be relentlessly fast, so is grievous, he can match maul in almost anything except the force,

grievous is also a master of tactics, he is trained to find a weak spot and exploit it, (hence why it didnt work on kenobi, kenobi's defense was almost impenitrable) he knows all 7 styles of lightsaber combat and imploys his own 4 armed advantage to them, he would surely find mauls weak spot and exploit it as well

name a trait that maul can take grievous with? im not being sarcastic or condecending id just like to know please?

Originally posted by alterangel
Your right that its impossible to say and thats quite possibly that he might be able to but we do know that grievous did and grievous has killed hundreds of force users one of which was a dark jedi, maul would be something grievous is use to: cocky aggresive, fast, smart, and relentless, and all of these traits he has been trained to deal with, and while maul might be relentlessly fast, so is grievous, he can match maul in almost anything except the force,

grievous is also a master of tactics, he is trained to find a weak spot and exploit it, (hence why it didnt work on kenobi, kenobi's defense was almost impenitrable) he knows all 7 styles of lightsaber combat and imploys his own 4 armed advantage to them, he would surely find mauls weak spot and exploit it as well

name a trait that maul can take grievous with? im not being sarcastic or condecending id just like to know please?

I do think that EU Grievous would beat Maul, though, but just barely.

but which grievous are we talking about in this thread?

they are technically the same grievous he just doesnt do as much in the film

and i agree that maul could have killed hundreds one at a time, but grievous could do it 4 or 5 at a time

and though maul could take grievous with the force i doubt it would give him an incredible advantage or for that matter even a deciding advantage

Originally posted by alterangel
they are technically the same grievous he just doesnt do as much in the film

The CW GG(or the Eu 1) is better because he is not damaged from Mace's force crush which happened right before ROTS. So it limited his mobility and hurt his lungs. Or something like that

Originally posted by Darth Hord
The CW GG(or the Eu 1) is better because he is not damaged from Mace's force crush which happened right before ROTS. So it limited his mobility and hurt his lungs. Or something like that

yes but not enough to make him incedebly less effective, it probably did hamper his fighting skills but not by a big enough differance in a duel, he mught have lost some stamina but thats probably it, idk ill check it out

alterangel, when does Grievous kill 4 of 5 Jedi at a time, apart from the CW duel when those Jedi were exhausted? He does it in LOE against 4, I suppose, but those were average Jedi, Maul could have taken them out, too, no problem.

Originally posted by darthsith19
alterangel, when does Grievous kill 4 of 5 Jedi at a time, apart from the CW duel when those Jedi were exhausted? He does it in LOE against 4, I suppose, but those were average Jedi, Maul could have taken them out, too, no problem.

what more proof do you need besides those 2? if he can do it twice then he can do it again, although definetaly not against like yoda or mace and obi, i just dont think maul can win against grievous, grievous is just too fast and has too many attacks to block

man i need that quote from LoE that says that grievous is more skilled than maul, ill probably go the library tomorrow and look for it

though i do agree that maul is a great lighsaber combatant, i just dont see how he can compete with grievous speed and four lighsabers, grievous is too aggresive and strong for maul last in a saber lock
and like i said grievous is a master tacticion, he would find mauls weakness and exploit it

I think GG can break Maul's saber into two.

And i think that Mauls double bladed saber wouldn't work well against GG 4 sabers at once, he would have been attacked from different angles at incredible speed and would have to worry, not to cut himself in half.

No kidding. Darth Maul's lightsaber isn't designed for fighting Grievous. I actually think that Maul might be able to fair better against most Jedi opponents then even Grievous, but an actual fight against Grievous? Never, because Darth Maul's deadliness can be attributed to Sith variants of the forms Juyo and Ataro. Juyo neglects defensive techniques to increase aggression, which is the last thing anybody wants to do when fighting Grievous. Ataro, the acrobatic form, just gives Grievous more to work with. The more flips you do, the more limbs for Grievous to cut off.

As for the force, what is Maul going to do? Force push Grievous to death? Nobody except maybe Anakin or Yoda could crush Grievous' durasteel with pure force power. Obi-Wan bent it a little with the force in the book, but that didn't do more then surprise Grievous for a second. If the lightsabers don't work on Grievous, nothin works. And in Maul's case, the lightsabers don't work.

Originally posted by BlaxicanHydra
Maul wins only because of the force. Saberwise, he goes down. I imagine that a saberstaff would be incredably hard to use to defend oneself against 16 Lightsabers per second.

bahaha.

Maul looses anyway. Like I said, Maul might actually be able to beat some powerful Jedi who aren't exhausted and surprised...something Grievous hasn't done. But Maul against Grievous? Naw. Maul isn't powerful enough to crush Grievous using the force. He can push him all over the place, but he can't do that forever, and Grievous will just get back up and Maul will be back where he started.

Nobody except maybe Anakin or Yoda could crush Grievous' durasteel with pure force power.

I think you forgot Windu...

Yeah, I forgot Windu. My mistake. I even forgot Sidious. Anakin and Yoda aren't the only ones who can crush Grievous with the force. There are others. But my point was that Maul isn't one of them.

Besides, why should Mace use the force to crush Grievous when his saber skills and his vision of Shatterpoints can beat Grievous anyway?

esides, why should Mace use the force to crush Grievous when his saber skills and his vision of Shatterpoints can beat Grievous anyway?

Well, ask him why he force crushed grievous' chest then 😆

Originally posted by Quark_666
Yeah, I forgot Windu. My mistake. I even forgot Sidious. Anakin and Yoda aren't the only ones who can crush Grievous with the force. There are others. But my point was that Maul isn't one of them.

Besides, why should Mace use the force to crush Grievous when his saber skills and his vision of Shatterpoints can beat Grievous anyway?

Originally posted by kamhal
Well, ask him why he force crushed grievous' chest then 😆

Because if I remember right he was pressed for time, he was doing something else while fighting Dooku and couldn't be bothered, so he just force pizzowned him.

Originally posted by vader11
You forgot Dooku too. 😛

That is the second time I've sinned today 🙄