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Originally posted by Shakyamunison
I would not take your word on this. I think you are too filled with hate to see the evil in your point of view.

fin.

You are absolutely correct.

Psalm 97:10
You who love the LORD, hate evil !He preserves the souls of His saints; He delivers them out of the hand of the wicked.

Homosexuality is an abomination and it is evil; thus, I hate it (but I love the person)

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Did I not make myself clear?

Originally posted by JesusIsAlive
Do you know what an abomination is Ashestoashesjc?

Main Entry: [B]abom·i·na·tion
Pronunciation: \ə-ˌbä-mə-ˈnâ-shən\
Function: noun
Date: 14th century
1 : something abominable
2 : extreme disgust and hatred : loathing

So abominations are bad, they arouse extreme disgust and hatred (i.e. loathing). This is how God views homosexuality, with extreme disgust, hatred, and loathing because it go against His decreed will and purposes.
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So in your eyes, god actually uses the word "abomination" which evolved (sorry to use this odious word) in the 14th century, in a book written more than a thousand years before?

Originally posted by eezy45
So in your eyes, god actually uses the word "abomination" which evolved (sorry to use this odious word) in the 14th century, in a book written more than a thousand years before?

I thought we had to stick to the thread topic (which no one in any other thread complies with).

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Originally posted by Storm
If you want to debate and exchange thoughts on the subject of homosexuality, please do so in the appropriate thread.

Originally posted by Storm
Did I not make myself clear?

Originally posted by JesusIsAlive
I thought we had to stick to the thread topic (which no one in any other thread complies with).

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Just ignore them... wait, your good at that. 😆 jk

Originally posted by JesusIsAlive
The early Roman Catholic society did not follow Jesus.

Homosexuality is never okay because it is an abomination according to living Word of God.

It is not different from today's standards because people are just as a sinful today and ungodly as they werer back then.

Yes the Roman Catholics didn't follow Jesus, but my point was homosexuality has been practiced for centuries. That's all.

And yes, as much as it pains people to know, homosexuality is viewed as a contradiction in the bible.

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
Then you have not answered any of his questions. 😆

Thank you my point rests...

Originally posted by JesusIsAlive
Castrated males and homosexuals are very distinct: one does not have sex with the same gender and the other does (but actually it is sodomy not sex).

Brother, you omitted verse 7 of 2 Peter (i.e. 2 Peter 2:7) it sheds light on 2 Peter 6 and provides proper context and helps to clarify what the sin of the Sodomites actually was.

[B]2 Peter 2:7
and delivered righteous Lot, who was oppressed by the filthy conduct of the wicked.

Would you agree with me that sodomy or homosexuality is filthy Nellinator? I believe that this was the chief sin based on the context of Genesis 18 and 2 Peter 2:7. There were other lawless deeds (based on 2 Peter 2:8) but I believe that the context suggests that homosexuality was chief among those lawless deeds that were committed by the Sodomites; hence, the term sodomy.

Furthermore, brother Ezekiel does not at all contradict what I have maintained at the outset: homosexuality is an abomination.

Ezekiel 16: 49-50
"Behold, this was the iniquity of thy sister Sodom, pride, fulness of bread, and abundance of idleness was in her and in her daughters, neither did she strengthen the hand of the poor and needy.

And they were haughty, and committed abomination before me: therefore I took them away as I saw good." [/B]

As for 2 Peter 2:7, there are many filthy deeds one can do. In fact, all sin is filthy before God. Greed (guilty), pride (guilty), murder, rape (another they were guilty of), foul language, etc. So, yes, although homosexuality would fit the description as a sin, this verse does not pinpoint it as a sin.

I never called it a contradiction. The Ezekiel passage does not rule out homosexuality as one of their sins, but it does show that it was not worthy of mention specifically as one of the sins.

Originally posted by JesusIsAlive
[b]Genesis 18:20-21
And the LORD said, “Because the outcry against Sodom and Gomorrah is great, and because their sin is very grave,

I will go down now and see whether they have done altogether according to the outcry against it that has come to Me; and if not, I will know.”

Genesis 19:5
And they called to Lot and said to him, “Where are the men who came to you tonight? Bring them out to us that we may know them carnally.”

Genesis 19:7-8
and said, “Please, my brethren, do not do so wickedly!

See now, I have two daughters who have not known a man; please, let me bring them out to you, and you may do to them as you wish; only do nothing to these men, since this is the reason they have come under the shadow of my roof.”

Genesis 19:13
For we will destroy this place, because the outcry against them has grown great before the face of the LORD, and the LORD has sent us to destroy it.

Genesis 19:15
When the morning dawned, the angels urged Lot to hurry, saying, “Arise, take your wife and your two daughters who are here, lest you be consumed in the punishment of the city.” [/B]

Originally posted by Storm
Did I not make myself clear?

Originally posted by Nellinator
By referencing the Matthew verse I am trying to show that homosexuality does not necessarily condemn someone.

As for 2 Peter 2:7, there are many filthy deeds one can do. In fact, all sin is filthy before God. Greed (guilty), pride (guilty), murder, rape (another they were guilty of), foul language, etc. So, yes, although homosexuality would fit the description as a sin, this verse does not pinpoint it as a sin.

I never called it a contradiction. The Ezekiel passage does not rule out homosexuality as one of their sins, but it does show that it was not worthy of mention specifically as one of the sins.

The city was already condemned before the people tried to rape the angels, so it only goes to show that is was a sin, not a primary one.

Homosexuality in itself is abominable though (according to the Bible).

But you persist in ignoring the context found in Genesis 19. Why wasn't any other example of sin (other than homosexuality) mentioned in Genesis 19? Context is everything. The men weren't smoking marijuana, cursing, being prideful, trying to murder anyone, or rape anyone (a man can be sodomized not raped), they were trying to commit homosexual acts on the angels.

Perhaps you are right about the city already being condemned--but why? 2 Peter 2:8 talks about how Lot's soul was tormented day-to-day by seeing, and hearing their lawless deeds.

As a side note it is very interesting that Lot's two daughters got their father drunk and had sex with him in an effort to preserve his lineage (bear in mind they had just came out of a sexually immoral society). I believe that they were adversely influenced by the debased society of Sodom and Gomorrah, and simply imitated some of the things that they heard and/or seen others doing in that culture.

Originally posted by JesusIsAlive
Homosexuality in itself is abominable though (according to the Bible).

But you persist in ignoring the context found in Genesis 19. Why wasn't any other example of sin (other than homosexuality) mentioned in Genesis 19? Context is everything. The men weren't smoking marijuana, cursing, being prideful, trying to murder anyone, or rape anyone (a man can be sodomized not raped), they were trying to commit [b]homosexual acts on the angels.

Perhaps you are right about the city already being condemned--but why? 2 Peter 2:8 talks about how Lot's soul was tormented day-to-day by seeing, and hearing their lawless deeds.

As a side note it is very interesting that Lot's two daughters got their father drunk and had sex with him in an to preserve his lineage (bear in mind they had just came out of a sexually immoral society). I believe that they were adversely influenced by the debased society of Sodom and Gomorrah, and simply imitated some of the things that they heard and/or seen others doing in that culture. [/B]

No worries, I'll respond to it in the correct thread.

Originally posted by JesusIsAlive
Will you when you are old and gray and can't do things for yourself?

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Easy... There will be a really bad smell coming from my house, as i decompose.
I'll just pray to to the man up stairs, i'm sure he will send someone to change my depends for me.

Originally posted by JesusIsAlive
You are absolutely correct.

[B]Psalm 97:10
You who love the LORD, hate evil !He preserves the souls of His saints; He delivers them out of the hand of the wicked.

Homosexuality is an abomination and it is evil; thus, I hate it (but I love the person)

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So...what you think you just explained to me is that you could hate someone and love them... all at once? Man, that Jesus juice is some powerful stuff!

Nope, you don't hate the person under that definition. Think of someone lying to you. You hate the lie and the fact that they lied, but do you hate the person? Hopefully not in all cases.

Originally posted by Nellinator
Nope, you don't hate the person under that definition. Think of someone lying to you. You hate the lie and the fact that they lied, but do you hate the person? Hopefully not in all cases.

I think a fib pales in comparison to a lifestyle, doncha' think?

Originally posted by Jim Reaper
Easy... There will be a really bad smell coming from my house, as i decompose.
I'll just pray to to the man up stairs, i'm sure he will send someone to change my depends for me.

Who is the "man upstairs?" (God is not a man).

STOP POSTING.

Does anyone find it weird that JIA posted for a bit and then disappeared, and then Thundar started posting and then he stopped posting, and now JIA is back?

Originally posted by Ashestoashesjc
So...what you think you just explained to me is that you could hate someone and love them... all at once? Man, that Jesus juice is some powerful stuff!

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You and Devil King have something in common: selective reading and/or inability to comprehend written material.

Show me where I said anything about hating someone and loving them? Do you not understand that there are two things under discussion here:

1) the person
2) the person's actions or lifestyle

For the umpteenth time I do not hate the person, I simply despise their sin (it is sending them to Hell when they could be going to Heaven).

Originally posted by Ashestoashesjc
I think a fib pales in comparison to a lifestyle, doncha' think?